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	<title>Comments on: Irish iPhones Now Crying? No Unlimited Data or Visual Voice Mail?</title>
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		<title>By: Design Ireland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Design Ireland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Mar 2009 20:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Is there a way to become a content writer for the site?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<title>By: Bri Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bri Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 10:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Dieter, I can&#039;t help but hear the &quot;Irish Spring&quot; soap commercial song whistling away. ;)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dieter, I can&#8217;t help but hear the &#8220;Irish Spring&#8221; soap commercial song whistling away. <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rene Ritchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doesn&#8217;t RIM revenue share for push email services? If so, $200 for 100MB (the previous data rate) was likely very rich for them.</p>

<p>Due to pressure from Bell and Telus, which now offer virtually unlimited data on subsets of HTC Touch, Blackberry&#8217;s (sometimes only Pearl), and other PDA&#8217;s, Rogers has moved (glacially) towards lower prices, but unless Job&#8217;s frequent flyer miles have been spent almost exclusively on wake-n-bakes with Ted Rogers, I&#8217;m still not holding my breath.</p>

<p>Here&#8217;s the latest:</p>

<p><a href=""http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20080211-rogers-unlimited-data-plan-not-so-unlimited-after-all.html"" target="_blank">Rogers Unlimited data plan not so unlimited after all</a></p>

<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>At first glance, the plan seems fairly straightforward: unlimited mobile data and Internet access for a mere extra $7 per month on top of your existing phone plan. However, when you look a little more closely, the “unlimited” deal turns out to be anything but unlimited. There is a limit of 2,500 sent text messages per month, and 1,000 picture or video messages, despite the fact that these too are “data” and should be unlimited. Of greater concern is the fact that the deal only applies to select phones  and does not include Blackberries, Windows Mobile devices, laptops using PC cards for mobile data access, or unlocked devices such as Apples iPhone. The latter is still officially unavailable in Canada, but many wondered if the revealing of this “unlimited” plan was a clue that Rogers was about to announce that they had secured exclusive access to sell the iPhone in the Great White North. This does not appear to be the case at the moment.</td></tr></table>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: surur</title>
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		<dc:creator>surur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 15:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=white&gt;Surur,

You think letting the Chinese dictate mobile terms is the way to go?&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Cant be worse than Apple, can it?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Surur&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>Surur,

You think letting the Chinese dictate mobile terms is the way to go?</td></tr></table>

<p>Cant be worse than Apple, can it?</p>

<p>Surur</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dieter Bohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dieter Bohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 14:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=white&gt;Dieter, how come you manage to reply before the original post? Psychic? :)&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Whoops - post time was done a little too quickly there on my part, eh?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Yes, MAGIC!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=white&gt;No &#039;Danny Boy&#039;, I promise.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That one too now, you&#039;re so fired.  :-p&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=white&gt; And the love ain&#039;t coming to Canada any time soon it seems. Not when they&#039;re raising text rates to .15 or .20 a message (140 characters * $0.20 = how much per Mb??) and restricting web access to their own wap sites on restricted phones... Canada is truly the 3rd world when it comes to mobile...&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s just so surreal, you&#039;d think that RIM would have flexed their muscles by now and gotten these carriers in line.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>Dieter, how come you manage to reply before the original post? Psychic? <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </td></tr></table>

<p>Whoops &#8211; post time was done a little too quickly there on my part, eh?</p>

<p>Yes, MAGIC!!</p>

<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>No &#8216;Danny Boy&#8217;, I promise.</td></tr></table>

<p>That one too now, you&#8217;re so fired.  :-p</p>

<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white> And the love ain&#8217;t coming to Canada any time soon it seems. Not when they&#8217;re raising text rates to .15 or .20 a message (140 characters * $0.20 = how much per Mb??) and restricting web access to their own wap sites on restricted phones&#8230; Canada is truly the 3rd world when it comes to mobile&#8230;</td></tr></table>

<p>It&#8217;s just so surreal, you&#8217;d think that RIM would have flexed their muscles by now and gotten these carriers in line.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rene Ritchie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 13:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Marcol,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dieter just got his Time Capsule, so he&#039;s now everywhen, Dr. Manhattan style.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m hoping you&#039;re right about the scenario in Ireland, as unlimited, ubiquitous internet is the future, and Apple was certainly helping to bring that future. It would be unfortunate if the tired old monopolies got to force us back into the data and feature stone age.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Surur,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You think letting the Chinese dictate mobile terms is the way to go?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dieter,&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;No &#039;Danny Boy&#039;, I promise. And the love ain&#039;t coming to Canada any time soon it seems. Not when they&#039;re raising text rates to .15 or .20 a message (140 characters * $0.20 = how much per Mb??) and restricting web access to their own wap sites on restricted phones... Canada is truly the 3rd world when it comes to mobile...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Marcol,</p>

<p>Dieter just got his Time Capsule, so he&#8217;s now everywhen, Dr. Manhattan style.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m hoping you&#8217;re right about the scenario in Ireland, as unlimited, ubiquitous internet is the future, and Apple was certainly helping to bring that future. It would be unfortunate if the tired old monopolies got to force us back into the data and feature stone age.</p>

<p>Surur,</p>

<p>You think letting the Chinese dictate mobile terms is the way to go?</p>

<p>Dieter,</p>

<p>No &#8216;Danny Boy&#8217;, I promise. And the love ain&#8217;t coming to Canada any time soon it seems. Not when they&#8217;re raising text rates to .15 or .20 a message (140 characters * $0.20 = how much per Mb??) and restricting web access to their own wap sites on restricted phones&#8230; Canada is truly the 3rd world when it comes to mobile&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: marcol</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:41:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=white&gt;I agree, bad news for Canada -- and you rener.  :(&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Dieter, how come you manage to reply before the original post? Psychic? :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>I agree, bad news for Canada &#8212; and you rener.  <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </td></tr></table>

<p>Dieter, how come you manage to reply before the original post? Psychic? <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: marcol</title>
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		<dc:creator>marcol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;At one point before release in the UK O2 were suggesting a limit of 200 MB pcm:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10006192o-2000331855b,00.htm&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10006192o-2000331855b,00.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That changed before release of course, a move some reckoned was due to pressure from Apple. If that&#039;s true perhaps a similar scenario will play out in Ireland too? In practice though it probably doesn&#039;t matter a whole lot, especially if there&#039;s little or no EDGE. 1 GB a month over GPRS would take a fair bit of effort. In the real world the high price of minutes and texts and the absence of any bundled hotspot access are likely to be more painful.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At one point before release in the UK O2 were suggesting a limit of 200 MB pcm:</p>

<p><a href="http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10006192o-2000331855b,00.htm" target="_blank">http://community.zdnet.co.uk/blog/0,1000000567,10006192o-2000331855b,00.htm</a></p>

<p>That changed before release of course, a move some reckoned was due to pressure from Apple. If that&#8217;s true perhaps a similar scenario will play out in Ireland too? In practice though it probably doesn&#8217;t matter a whole lot, especially if there&#8217;s little or no EDGE. 1 GB a month over GPRS would take a fair bit of effort. In the real world the high price of minutes and texts and the absence of any bundled hotspot access are likely to be more painful.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: surur</title>
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		<dc:creator>surur</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 12:04:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;There is some signs Apple is losing leverage, especially their inability to get a deal in china, and talking about changing their &quot;superior&quot; business plan.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Surur&lt;/p&gt;
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<p>Surur</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dieter Bohn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dieter Bohn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 11:48:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;And now i have &quot;When Irish Eyes are Smiling&quot; in my head.  Great.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And now i have &#8220;When Irish Eyes are Smiling&#8221; in my head.  Great.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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