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	<title>Comments on: Being Played? Flash, Music, and Manipulation &#8211; Wait-a-Thon</title>
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		<title>By: sparhawk</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/03/25/being-played-flash-music-and-manipulation-wait-a-thon/comment-page-1/#comment-5890</link>
		<dc:creator>sparhawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 17:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Those subscription services... ugh, they&#039;re called negative option marketing and sometimes it&#039;s you buy those with the iPhone or no buy at all.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Those subscription services&#8230; ugh, they&#8217;re called negative option marketing and sometimes it&#8217;s you buy those with the iPhone or no buy at all.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rene Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/03/25/being-played-flash-music-and-manipulation-wait-a-thon/comment-page-1/#comment-5889</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 21:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yellow iPhone pre-loaded with Beetles catalog!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;(TM Merlin Mann)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yellow iPhone pre-loaded with Beetles catalog!</p>

<p>(TM Merlin Mann)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: tschertz01</title>
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		<dc:creator>tschertz01</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 19:21:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I read the rumors. I enjoy the rumors. I sometimes hope the rumors come true. But I never believe the rumors until they are real.&lt;br /&gt;
There are lots of things I would like to see on the iPhone but Flash I can live without (fancier ads oh joy) and subscription services (miss a bill and kiss your music goodbye) I don&#039;t want.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read the rumors. I enjoy the rumors. I sometimes hope the rumors come true. But I never believe the rumors until they are real.<br />
There are lots of things I would like to see on the iPhone but Flash I can live without (fancier ads oh joy) and subscription services (miss a bill and kiss your music goodbye) I don&#8217;t want.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: AnteL0pe</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnteL0pe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=white&gt;&#039;m done getting excited over all of these rumors...&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Welcome to the wonderful world of owning, and caring about the future of, Apple products. Something about Apple has more than other computer makers is the rampant rumor scene. Maybe Apple brings this on themselves by hyping everything, but even that is mostly out of their control. I mean any time Apple even hints at a new product people go nuts, most of the hype isn&#039;t Apple created. Anyway, when dealing with Apple rumors remember this tried and true rule of thumb:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;No one knows **** and anyone who tells you they do is making money from banner ad impressions on their site.&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you remember that, never believe any rumors and never get excited for products/updates/features that rumor sites predict then you&#039;ll rarely be disappointed by Apple announcements. I can&#039;t count the number of times I&#039;ve heard some jackass on a Mac related forum site proclaim &quot;Worst MacWorld ever!!1!&quot; immediately after Jobs&#039; keynote just because all of the outlandish, rumored-to-be-certain products weren&#039;t announced.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>&#8216;m done getting excited over all of these rumors&#8230;</td></tr></table>

<p>Welcome to the wonderful world of owning, and caring about the future of, Apple products. Something about Apple has more than other computer makers is the rampant rumor scene. Maybe Apple brings this on themselves by hyping everything, but even that is mostly out of their control. I mean any time Apple even hints at a new product people go nuts, most of the hype isn&#8217;t Apple created. Anyway, when dealing with Apple rumors remember this tried and true rule of thumb:</p>

<p><strong>No one knows **** and anyone who tells you they do is making money from banner ad impressions on their site.</strong></p>

<p>If you remember that, never believe any rumors and never get excited for products/updates/features that rumor sites predict then you&#8217;ll rarely be disappointed by Apple announcements. I can&#8217;t count the number of times I&#8217;ve heard some jackass on a Mac related forum site proclaim &#8220;Worst MacWorld ever!!1!&#8221; immediately after Jobs&#8217; keynote just because all of the outlandish, rumored-to-be-certain products weren&#8217;t announced.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: NPR_aficionado</title>
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		<dc:creator>NPR_aficionado</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 20:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Don&#039;t you feel, as the general consumer, you are getting played by the big corporations?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you feel, as the general consumer, you are getting played by the big corporations?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rene Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/03/25/being-played-flash-music-and-manipulation-wait-a-thon/comment-page-1/#comment-5885</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Re-MMS, I think cell-specific techs like SMS and MMS will begin to fade as general net standards like Email become available on more and more phones. (Phones that don&#039;t have keyboards could still make use of email protocols to send between themselves and non-phone clients).&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re-MMS, I think cell-specific techs like SMS and MMS will begin to fade as general net standards like Email become available on more and more phones. (Phones that don&#8217;t have keyboards could still make use of email protocols to send between themselves and non-phone clients).</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rene Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/03/25/being-played-flash-music-and-manipulation-wait-a-thon/comment-page-1/#comment-5884</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 18:17:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I was listening to TWiT yesterday and Jason Calacanis (sp?) was on, who founded Weblogs Inc. and Engadget. He said what often happened was that people at the big tech companies like MS, Palm, and Apple, who were unhappy with this or that corp. decision would leak it to Rojas (sp? Founder of Gizmodo and Engadget) or Ryan Block (current EiC of Engadget) just to get negative attention and try to get the policy changed.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Two other crazy stories he told was that, right when rumors broke of a the first WinMob Treo, he asked Rojas if he knew anything about it, and Rojas just smiled and pulled one from his pocket. Far as Calacanis knew, only Gates and Colligan had them at that point, but Rojas said he was slipped one because they wanted his opinion.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Lastly, Calacanis said he met Jobs while wearing an Engadget name tag and Jobs commented that he liked Engadget. Jason was surprised Jobs read it but Jobs said Engadget did a better job of providing competitive info than anything Jobs could do.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was listening to TWiT yesterday and Jason Calacanis (sp?) was on, who founded Weblogs Inc. and Engadget. He said what often happened was that people at the big tech companies like MS, Palm, and Apple, who were unhappy with this or that corp. decision would leak it to Rojas (sp? Founder of Gizmodo and Engadget) or Ryan Block (current EiC of Engadget) just to get negative attention and try to get the policy changed.</p>

<p>Two other crazy stories he told was that, right when rumors broke of a the first WinMob Treo, he asked Rojas if he knew anything about it, and Rojas just smiled and pulled one from his pocket. Far as Calacanis knew, only Gates and Colligan had them at that point, but Rojas said he was slipped one because they wanted his opinion.</p>

<p>Lastly, Calacanis said he met Jobs while wearing an Engadget name tag and Jobs commented that he liked Engadget. Jason was surprised Jobs read it but Jobs said Engadget did a better job of providing competitive info than anything Jobs could do.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: labgpr</title>
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		<dc:creator>labgpr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 17:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree, must of this rumors are to get more clicks on the page than anything else. And the worst part is that works all the time. If you look around all the tech blogs, they keep repeating the same stuff and the ones with the iPhone on it generates a lot of comments. We can only hope that some of them materialize. In terms of flash, i miss it but if it&#039;s going to stall my iPhone on every page, no thanks. It&#039;s annoying enough on a regular computer, so I prefer the skim milk version of the iPhone. On the other hand, I do miss MMS, search and cut-n-paste, in case somebody is listening.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, must of this rumors are to get more clicks on the page than anything else. And the worst part is that works all the time. If you look around all the tech blogs, they keep repeating the same stuff and the ones with the iPhone on it generates a lot of comments. We can only hope that some of them materialize. In terms of flash, i miss it but if it&#8217;s going to stall my iPhone on every page, no thanks. It&#8217;s annoying enough on a regular computer, so I prefer the skim milk version of the iPhone. On the other hand, I do miss MMS, search and cut-n-paste, in case somebody is listening.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: gruswitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>gruswitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:37:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;... or the problem could be rumors being reported as news. Sure companies of all sorts float rumors to test the waters or play spoiler, but electronics consumers (like us) are just bit more rabid for more info than in many markets. The blogs trade rumors readily, it&#039;s kind of fun. However, the &quot;legitimate&quot; news now references rumors from the blogs as sources. That&#039;s just silly.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; or the problem could be rumors being reported as news. Sure companies of all sorts float rumors to test the waters or play spoiler, but electronics consumers (like us) are just bit more rabid for more info than in many markets. The blogs trade rumors readily, it&#8217;s kind of fun. However, the &#8220;legitimate&#8221; news now references rumors from the blogs as sources. That&#8217;s just silly.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rene Ritchie</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/03/25/being-played-flash-music-and-manipulation-wait-a-thon/comment-page-1/#comment-5881</link>
		<dc:creator>Rene Ritchie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Mar 2008 16:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Serendipitously by way of Gruber:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray&gt;&lt;tr&gt;&lt;td bgcolor=white&gt;The Age of the Anti-Cassandra
John Gruber
Today, 5:34 PM
Paul Krugman:

Cassandra had the gift of prophecy &#8212; she saw, correctly, what was coming &#8212; but was under a curse: nobody would believe her.

Today, our public discourse is dominated by people who have been wrong about everything &#8212; but are still, mysteriously, treated as men of wisdom, whose judgments should be believed. Those who were actually right about the major issues of the day can&#8217;t get a word in edgewise.&lt;/td&gt;&lt;/tr&gt;&lt;/table&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Serendipitously by way of Gruber:</p>

<table width=100% bgcolor=lightgray><tr><td bgcolor=white>The Age of the Anti-Cassandra
John Gruber
Today, 5:34 PM
Paul Krugman:

Cassandra had the gift of prophecy &#8212; she saw, correctly, what was coming &#8212; but was under a curse: nobody would believe her.

Today, our public discourse is dominated by people who have been wrong about everything &#8212; but are still, mysteriously, treated as men of wisdom, whose judgments should be believed. Those who were actually right about the major issues of the day can&#8217;t get a word in edgewise.</td></tr></table>]]></content:encoded>
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