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	<title>Comments on: iPhone 3G in Canada: One Week Later</title>
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		<title>By: Marcel</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/07/17/iphone-3g-in-canada-one-week-later/comment-page-1/#comment-86648</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Oct 2009 01:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I used Iphone3G with Rogers for 13 months
4 days ago, when I was updating firmware to 3.1.2, my phone crash ans loop in recovery mode.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Rogers said, WE DO NOT COVER FOR SOFTWARE ISSUES&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;WTF??? It was you who send a SMS to update the OS and now you said that you are not responsible?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;bottom line they want to buy a new phone with 3 year contract again !!!!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I prefer to pay 420$ and cancel my service (120$ a month)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;ROGERS is definetely one of the worst companies in Canada&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;DO NOT GO WITH ROGERS&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used Iphone3G with Rogers for 13 months
4 days ago, when I was updating firmware to 3.1.2, my phone crash ans loop in recovery mode.</p>

<p>Rogers said, WE DO NOT COVER FOR SOFTWARE ISSUES</p>

<p>WTF??? It was you who send a SMS to update the OS and now you said that you are not responsible?</p>

<p>bottom line they want to buy a new phone with 3 year contract again !!!!</p>

<p>I prefer to pay 420$ and cancel my service (120$ a month)</p>

<p>ROGERS is definetely one of the worst companies in Canada</p>

<p>DO NOT GO WITH ROGERS</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Jan 2009 14:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi, &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Do the fido and Rogers Data blocks work?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;they keep telling me that Iphone can still somehow override those blocks. Is that true?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, </p>

<p>Do the fido and Rogers Data blocks work?</p>

<p>they keep telling me that Iphone can still somehow override those blocks. Is that true?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/07/17/iphone-3g-in-canada-one-week-later/comment-page-1/#comment-13113</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 04:54:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Personally I am VERY happy rogers got the iPhone. they may be charging an arm and a leg for the data packages but everything about them is so much better than any other phone company in Canada. I have been with both telus and bell and both times they f*cked up my plans and even after i called them to fix it, and at the end of the month my bill was the same! It freakin pissed me off. As soon as my plan was up i moved straight to rogers and haven&#039;t had a problem since. I got the iPhone and absolutely love it. I have not yet found anything major i would change. It is absolutely amazing&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I am VERY happy rogers got the iPhone. they may be charging an arm and a leg for the data packages but everything about them is so much better than any other phone company in Canada. I have been with both telus and bell and both times they f*cked up my plans and even after i called them to fix it, and at the end of the month my bill was the same! It freakin pissed me off. As soon as my plan was up i moved straight to rogers and haven&#8217;t had a problem since. I got the iPhone and absolutely love it. I have not yet found anything major i would change. It is absolutely amazing</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/07/17/iphone-3g-in-canada-one-week-later/comment-page-1/#comment-11062</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 05:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;OK I get the iPhone and they tell me because of my credit I have to put down a $200 deposit??? OK sure (bell never did that with my Blackberry) so I got the $30 data and $45 voice and $20 extras thing. 7 days later after the phone comes out they cut it off. WTF!!! so I wait on hold for 30min and the Rogers rep says you have reached your $200 limit and they canceled my service... Why? Because the first bill is Pro-rated and that comes to $209. I have had the figgen phone for 9 days!!!! I gave them such shit and the turned it back on and they asked me for $9... 9 fucking dollars!!! My clients can&#039;t get a hold of me for $9? 
Roger&#039;s policy&#039;s stink and I want to go back to bell.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK I get the iPhone and they tell me because of my credit I have to put down a $200 deposit??? OK sure (bell never did that with my Blackberry) so I got the $30 data and $45 voice and $20 extras thing. 7 days later after the phone comes out they cut it off. WTF!!! so I wait on hold for 30min and the Rogers rep says you have reached your $200 limit and they canceled my service&#8230; Why? Because the first bill is Pro-rated and that comes to $209. I have had the figgen phone for 9 days!!!! I gave them such <acronym title="shit">****</acronym> and the turned it back on and they asked me for $9&#8230; 9 <acronym title="fucking">*******</acronym> dollars!!! My clients can&#8217;t get a hold of me for $9? 
Roger&#8217;s policy&#8217;s stink and I want to go back to bell.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Gam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 16:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I order the 16Go on Monday 14th [$35/month voice plan, no data plan]. I&#039;m still waiting to get the phone. I just called fido, they told me they don&#039;t have any iphone in stock and they don&#039;t know when they going to get some.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I really hope I going to get it this week, but I&#039;m not confident about that.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I order the 16Go on Monday 14th [$35/month voice plan, no data plan]. I&#8217;m still waiting to get the phone. I just called fido, they told me they don&#8217;t have any iphone in stock and they don&#8217;t know when they going to get some.</p>

<p>I really hope I going to get it this week, but I&#8217;m not confident about that.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mav</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mav</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jul 2008 06:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here is my experience of buying iPhone WITHOUT data plan:&lt;/p&gt;

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&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Friday, July 11, ~9am. Called Fido and after waiting about 20 min got through and asked to upgrade to iPhone 16GB with my existing voice plan ($20/month) where I had no contract. The Fido rep asked me to upgrade to the $35/month voice plan. I agreed since didn&#039;t want to argue but I new that it&#039;s because they have this as a condition (they sell the iPhone for $50 more - $349 instead of $299 and with $30+ voice plan they will rebate $50).&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;I didn&#039;t order a data plan and specifically asked Fido to DISABLE data for my account so I&#039;m not charged accidentally. Fido rep did just that, no questions asked. And he confirmed that I can still use Wi-Fi on iPhone without data plan for free.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;Wednesday, July 16. The iPhone arrived and I activated it without any problems. As soon as I &quot;unbricked&quot; the phone it immediately found and connected (after entering a password) to my home Wi-Fi network. I browsed internet, used GPS etc. Then I disconnected from Wi-Fi and tried to connect via 3G. As promised, iPhone refused to connect due to disabled data. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;&lt;p&gt;In a few days I called Fido again and asked to downgrade to my original $20/month voice plan. After arguing for 5-10 minutes on various topics (i.e. why would anyone want iPhone without a data plan? ;-), why would anyone want to downgrade to $20/month voice etc.) he did the downgrade. Of course the $50, which I mentioned above I would forfeit but it&#039;s a small price to pay.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Conclusion: getting iPhone (Fido) 3G on $20/month voice plan without data is doable. Your mileage may vary.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is my experience of buying iPhone WITHOUT data plan:</p>

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<li><p>Friday, July 11, ~9am. Called Fido and after waiting about 20 min got through and asked to upgrade to iPhone 16GB with my existing voice plan ($20/month) where I had no contract. The Fido rep asked me to upgrade to the $35/month voice plan. I agreed since didn&#8217;t want to argue but I new that it&#8217;s because they have this as a condition (they sell the iPhone for $50 more &#8211; $349 instead of $299 and with $30+ voice plan they will rebate $50).</p></li>
<li><p>I didn&#8217;t order a data plan and specifically asked Fido to DISABLE data for my account so I&#8217;m not charged accidentally. Fido rep did just that, no questions asked. And he confirmed that I can still use Wi-Fi on iPhone without data plan for free.</p></li>
<li><p>Wednesday, July 16. The iPhone arrived and I activated it without any problems. As soon as I &#8220;unbricked&#8221; the phone it immediately found and connected (after entering a password) to my home Wi-Fi network. I browsed internet, used GPS etc. Then I disconnected from Wi-Fi and tried to connect via 3G. As promised, iPhone refused to connect due to disabled data. </p></li>
<li><p>In a few days I called Fido again and asked to downgrade to my original $20/month voice plan. After arguing for 5-10 minutes on various topics (i.e. why would anyone want iPhone without a data plan? <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> , why would anyone want to downgrade to $20/month voice etc.) he did the downgrade. Of course the $50, which I mentioned above I would forfeit but it&#8217;s a small price to pay.</p></li>
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<p>Conclusion: getting iPhone (Fido) 3G on $20/month voice plan without data is doable. Your mileage may vary.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jul 2008 22:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Richard I &lt;em&gt;did&lt;/em&gt; tell it to Rogers, and the guy &lt;em&gt;I&lt;/em&gt; spoke to put me on hold while he went and checked out the complaint. He came back and told me that &lt;em&gt;if you&#039;re eligible for an upgrade&lt;/em&gt;, then no Rogers outlet can refuse to sell you the iPhone. He said that this is written into the agreements that all the retailers sign. He said he would put a note on my file, and told me to check back with them if the retailer still refused to sell to me after calling them back and forcing their hand.
I called the retailer back, and at first the manager argued with me, telling me that his store had &quot;nothing to do with Rogers&quot; and that he could make his own rules. He was so sure of himself that he passed me on to the &quot;regional manager&quot; for the area who &quot;just happened to be in the store&quot;. When this guy got on the line I told him I wanted to complain about the policy, and he immediately said: &quot;no, no this isn&#039;t our policy. I don&#039;t know what this manager is talking about. If you&#039;re eligible for an upgrade, come on in and we&#039;ll sell it to you.&quot; 
When I went in to the store, no one apologized to me or anything, but they did sell me the phone :-)
@Richard your situation is unfortunate, and Rogers should be doing something to correct your situation. If they have indeed reversed their policy in this area, then I feel lucky to have gotten in under the wire when it wasn&#039;t their policy.
I absolutely agree with the others that as soon as there &lt;em&gt;is&lt;/em&gt; another company to sign up with, I will bail on Rogers. BUT, I would suggest that those who have these issues with Rogers remain calm and polite on the line with these poor, clueless people who answer the phones and deal with you. Getting angry and demanding things is not going to get you an iPhone sooner; all it does is increase both your stress and the person on the other end of the line who has to deal with your impatience. 
If you hate Rogers that bad, stop dealing with them. If you want the iPhone badly enough to deal with them, don&#039;t make the situation worse by being stupid and impatient with people who have no control over the policies set by corporate.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Richard I <em>did</em> tell it to Rogers, and the guy <em>I</em> spoke to put me on hold while he went and checked out the complaint. He came back and told me that <em>if you&#8217;re eligible for an upgrade</em>, then no Rogers outlet can refuse to sell you the iPhone. He said that this is written into the agreements that all the retailers sign. He said he would put a note on my file, and told me to check back with them if the retailer still refused to sell to me after calling them back and forcing their hand.
I called the retailer back, and at first the manager argued with me, telling me that his store had &#8220;nothing to do with Rogers&#8221; and that he could make his own rules. He was so sure of himself that he passed me on to the &#8220;regional manager&#8221; for the area who &#8220;just happened to be in the store&#8221;. When this guy got on the line I told him I wanted to complain about the policy, and he immediately said: &#8220;no, no this isn&#8217;t our policy. I don&#8217;t know what this manager is talking about. If you&#8217;re eligible for an upgrade, come on in and we&#8217;ll sell it to you.&#8221; 
When I went in to the store, no one apologized to me or anything, but they did sell me the phone <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> 
@Richard your situation is unfortunate, and Rogers should be doing something to correct your situation. If they have indeed reversed their policy in this area, then I feel lucky to have gotten in under the wire when it wasn&#8217;t their policy.
I absolutely agree with the others that as soon as there <em>is</em> another company to sign up with, I will bail on Rogers. BUT, I would suggest that those who have these issues with Rogers remain calm and polite on the line with these poor, clueless people who answer the phones and deal with you. Getting angry and demanding things is not going to get you an iPhone sooner; all it does is increase both your stress and the person on the other end of the line who has to deal with your impatience. 
If you hate Rogers that bad, stop dealing with them. If you want the iPhone badly enough to deal with them, don&#8217;t make the situation worse by being stupid and impatient with people who have no control over the policies set by corporate.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Randy Troppmann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy Troppmann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I avoided launch day. On the following tuesday I went into a Rogers store and they had no stock and could not say when they would have any. Particularly the 16g model. Particularly the white one. I went home and phoned Rogers and they took my order and on Thursday morning my (16g white) phone arrived. I connected it to my mac, clicked a few times and it was done. Painless (well, except the price of it all). I am a new customer (previously with Telus). The phone is amazing. Rogers service so far has been great.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I actually appreciate Rogers saying the data plan is 6 gb and not &quot;unlimited&quot; with a hard cap which is disingenuous.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I avoided launch day. On the following tuesday I went into a Rogers store and they had no stock and could not say when they would have any. Particularly the 16g model. Particularly the white one. I went home and phoned Rogers and they took my order and on Thursday morning my (16g white) phone arrived. I connected it to my mac, clicked a few times and it was done. Painless (well, except the price of it all). I am a new customer (previously with Telus). The phone is amazing. Rogers service so far has been great.</p>

<p>I actually appreciate Rogers saying the data plan is 6 gb and not &#8220;unlimited&#8221; with a hard cap which is disingenuous.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: TT</title>
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		<dc:creator>TT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 23:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you access WiFi on your own connection or at a public place, I think it would be impossible for the phone provider to keep track of that and charge you. Only the government does taht kind of spying. Also what would you be charged for?  Rodgers isn&#039;t paying for the WiFi.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you access WiFi on your own connection or at a public place, I think it would be impossible for the phone provider to keep track of that and charge you. Only the government does taht kind of spying. Also what would you be charged for?  Rodgers isn&#8217;t paying for the WiFi.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 17:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I also am waiting to get my iPhone. I was waiting impatiently for one year, and ordered mine on launch day as quickly as I could (through a promotion at my company). Well, one week later, still no iPhone. I&#039;m told it&#039;s because I&#039;m an existing customer. So they&#039;ve probably run out of stock, and I&#039;ll have to wait till August to get one. They better have one before the August 31 deadline for the 6GB Data Plan expires! &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So just like the previous comment, I&#039;ll be patient and wait for my iPhone, whenever that will come. But when the day comes that another company surfaces on the market with the iPhone, I will be delighted to call Fido to cancel my account because of how they&#039;ve treated me as a long-time customer.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also am waiting to get my iPhone. I was waiting impatiently for one year, and ordered mine on launch day as quickly as I could (through a promotion at my company). Well, one week later, still no iPhone. I&#8217;m told it&#8217;s because I&#8217;m an existing customer. So they&#8217;ve probably run out of stock, and I&#8217;ll have to wait till August to get one. They better have one before the August 31 deadline for the 6GB Data Plan expires! </p>

<p>So just like the previous comment, I&#8217;ll be patient and wait for my iPhone, whenever that will come. But when the day comes that another company surfaces on the market with the iPhone, I will be delighted to call Fido to cancel my account because of how they&#8217;ve treated me as a long-time customer.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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