Comments on: Why the UK was Wrong to Ban the iPhone “Just the Internet” Ad! http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/08/27/why-the-uk-was-wrong-to-ban-the-iphone-just-the-internet-ad/ For people who dare to Phone Different. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 01:18:37 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Danuta Bartels http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/08/27/why-the-uk-was-wrong-to-ban-the-iphone-just-the-internet-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-32749 Danuta Bartels Sun, 22 Feb 2009 16:47:35 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4012#comment-32749 <p>I don't often respond on blogs until now! I've added you to my reader, thanks :)</p> I don’t often respond on blogs until now! I’ve added you to my reader, thanks :)

]]> By: dennis http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/08/27/why-the-uk-was-wrong-to-ban-the-iphone-just-the-internet-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13713 dennis Mon, 01 Sep 2008 14:17:53 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4012#comment-13713 <p>Not to beat a dead horse, but given how the iPhone replaces the input "internet" with "Internet," I'd say that Apple was kind of asking for it.</p> Not to beat a dead horse, but given how the iPhone replaces the input “internet” with “Internet,” I’d say that Apple was kind of asking for it.

]]> By: art http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/08/27/why-the-uk-was-wrong-to-ban-the-iphone-just-the-internet-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13511 art Thu, 28 Aug 2008 15:54:08 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4012#comment-13511 <p>I totally agree. While popular and widely installed, Flash, Java, and Silverlight are like bloatware for the internet.</p> I totally agree. While popular and widely installed, Flash, Java, and Silverlight are like bloatware for the internet.

]]> By: Rajdeep http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/08/27/why-the-uk-was-wrong-to-ban-the-iphone-just-the-internet-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13490 Rajdeep Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:17:07 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4012#comment-13490 <p>Good one...</p> <p>My community. http://toostep.com/apple<em>iphone</em>3G<em>lovers</em>mobile<em>community</em>phones_india</p> Good one…

My community. http://toostep.com/appleiphone3Gloversmobilecommunityphones_india

]]> By: Richard Conrad http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/08/27/why-the-uk-was-wrong-to-ban-the-iphone-just-the-internet-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13489 Richard Conrad Thu, 28 Aug 2008 12:02:27 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4012#comment-13489 <p>About time Apple got pulled up for exaggerating. They've been doing it all day, sir!</p> About time Apple got pulled up for exaggerating. They’ve been doing it all day, sir!

]]> By: Martin BB http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/08/27/why-the-uk-was-wrong-to-ban-the-iphone-just-the-internet-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13487 Martin BB Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:20:43 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4012#comment-13487 <p>The ASA are not saying apple have to support flash. Their just saying, don't make it sound as if you do in your ads.</p> The ASA are not saying apple have to support flash. Their just saying, don’t make it sound as if you do in your ads.

]]> By: Martin BB http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/08/27/why-the-uk-was-wrong-to-ban-the-iphone-just-the-internet-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13486 Martin BB Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:18:03 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4012#comment-13486 <p>The ASA are right. </p> <p>Its a bit like selling you a a round the world plane ticket with the advert "Buy a ticket from our airline and visit the entire world" and then giving you a ticket that allowed you to fly around europe.</p> <p>A ticket around europe is good... but it not an around the world ticket!</p> <p>The Iphone Internet Experiance is good... but it's not the full Internet Experiance .</p> The ASA are right.

Its a bit like selling you a a round the world plane ticket with the advert “Buy a ticket from our airline and visit the entire world” and then giving you a ticket that allowed you to fly around europe.

A ticket around europe is good… but it not an around the world ticket!

The Iphone Internet Experiance is good… but it’s not the full Internet Experiance .

]]> By: Rene Ritchie http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/08/27/why-the-uk-was-wrong-to-ban-the-iphone-just-the-internet-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13485 Rene Ritchie Thu, 28 Aug 2008 11:10:23 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4012#comment-13485 <p>@Steve,</p> <p>1) That's an excellent point, and if they'd found the add misleading for not including FTP or some other protocol beyond web and mail without specifying only web and mail, then personally I would have little to argue about. That they didn't cite FTP, etc., but chose Flash and Java, shows it was a wrong-headed decision. ("Oh, the public understands they can't IM, but sod it all, we wants our vidz!")</p> <p>2) When the BBC uses Microsoft DRM that won't work on the Mac, does that mean the Mac can't say it supports the Web, or is it the Beeb that doesn't support it? Likewise, the iPhone will play any compatible Quicktime video as well as "YouTube". It's a question of format only, not whether or not it can play video (which is clearly can). Demanding support for other companies proprietary extensions is again a slippery slope.</p> @Steve,

1) That’s an excellent point, and if they’d found the add misleading for not including FTP or some other protocol beyond web and mail without specifying only web and mail, then personally I would have little to argue about. That they didn’t cite FTP, etc., but chose Flash and Java, shows it was a wrong-headed decision. (”Oh, the public understands they can’t IM, but sod it all, we wants our vidz!”)

2) When the BBC uses Microsoft DRM that won’t work on the Mac, does that mean the Mac can’t say it supports the Web, or is it the Beeb that doesn’t support it? Likewise, the iPhone will play any compatible Quicktime video as well as “YouTube”. It’s a question of format only, not whether or not it can play video (which is clearly can). Demanding support for other companies proprietary extensions is again a slippery slope.

]]> By: Murph http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/08/27/why-the-uk-was-wrong-to-ban-the-iphone-just-the-internet-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13484 Murph Thu, 28 Aug 2008 10:46:48 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4012#comment-13484 <p>The people who are targeted by the ad in question are not interested in what is technically classed as the internet. They want to browse their favorite sites without large parts of them missing. I'm still supprised how many people say to me "I'll buy one when they have added flash". I know Apple have sold lots of iPhones and iPod Touch but I think they would double that with Flash support. Murph</p> The people who are targeted by the ad in question are not interested in what is technically classed as the internet. They want to browse their favorite sites without large parts of them missing. I’m still supprised how many people say to me “I’ll buy one when they have added flash”. I know Apple have sold lots of iPhones and iPod Touch but I think they would double that with Flash support. Murph

]]> By: steve http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/08/27/why-the-uk-was-wrong-to-ban-the-iphone-just-the-internet-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-13483 steve Thu, 28 Aug 2008 09:52:22 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=4012#comment-13483 <p>1) The internet != The World Wide Web. What about FTP/NTP/IM/POP/P2P/etc/etc? I have no idea whether the iphone supports these, but the advert seems to think so!</p> <p>2) If an advert tells me that the iphone gives me "the internet on my phone", then I would expect to log onto the BBC website and watch the news bulletin. Especially when the ability to watch youtube vidoes has been advertised so much (what, you expect people to realise that youtube is a "special case" and all other web video will not work?)</p> <p>It's a misleading advert.</p> 1) The internet != The World Wide Web. What about FTP/NTP/IM/POP/P2P/etc/etc? I have no idea whether the iphone supports these, but the advert seems to think so!

2) If an advert tells me that the iphone gives me “the internet on my phone”, then I would expect to log onto the BBC website and watch the news bulletin. Especially when the ability to watch youtube vidoes has been advertised so much (what, you expect people to realise that youtube is a “special case” and all other web video will not work?)

It’s a misleading advert.

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