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	<title>Comments on: Attack of the iClones: HTC Touch HD Edition</title>
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		<title>By: Y W Wong</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/09/17/attack-of-the-iclones-htc-touch-hd-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-39517</link>
		<dc:creator>Y W Wong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Apr 2009 07:25:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Bug found for HTC Touch HD.
Sometime cannot answer incoming calls.
It occuried after Active Sync are used.
Sometimes it keep ringing but the screen are locked such that cannot answer the calls.
Sometimes it keep ringing even the caller has already released the call. Need remove the battery to make it back to normal.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bug found for HTC Touch HD.
Sometime cannot answer incoming calls.
It occuried after Active Sync are used.
Sometimes it keep ringing but the screen are locked such that cannot answer the calls.
Sometimes it keep ringing even the caller has already released the call. Need remove the battery to make it back to normal.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: tonsta</title>
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		<dc:creator>tonsta</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 20:05:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Man theres alot of iphone lovers here, i personally own the iphone and the touch HD and can tell you my iphone has not left the house since i got the touch HD. It has never crashed and in my eyes can do so much more.I have tomtom on it i lovee the interface AND can control it all by thumb just becasue it comes with a pen does not mean it has to be used. There is so much more apps and bits out for the windows operating system than the iphone atm.
and as for the sound, well unless your using the touch wins on that too im afraid , read all the reviews also from personal exp, it has audio booster  for headphones and also has a better quality speaker.plus i can add any song when and if i feel.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The screen is much better and has to be seen to to be beleived.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;it just looks nicer and runs better than the iphone. so what you cant pinch the screen to zoom in and out who cares? one click and you zoom in anyways rather that fiddling around with 2 fingers.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think some people on here just have to say maybe there is better out there than the iphone because i can tell you there is.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;the touch has better features is more powerfull (in comparison) has the better sound and screen and it my opinion the UI&#039;s are on par.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;And in regards from above where you ended in &quot;posted from my iphone&quot; WOW no other phone does this! no wait a minute yes they do and you know what the touch does it better as it has a better keyboard!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am not meaning to offend anyone but get sick of iphone owners thinking nothing will ever beat it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS A PHONE SOMETHING YOU CALL PEEPS ON ANS TXT FROM&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Man theres alot of iphone lovers here, i personally own the iphone and the touch HD and can tell you my iphone has not left the house since i got the touch HD. It has never crashed and in my eyes can do so much more.I have tomtom on it i lovee the interface AND can control it all by thumb just becasue it comes with a pen does not mean it has to be used. There is so much more apps and bits out for the windows operating system than the iphone atm.
and as for the sound, well unless your using the touch wins on that too im afraid , read all the reviews also from personal exp, it has audio booster  for headphones and also has a better quality speaker.plus i can add any song when and if i feel.</p>

<p>The screen is much better and has to be seen to to be beleived.</p>

<p>it just looks nicer and runs better than the iphone. so what you cant pinch the screen to zoom in and out who cares? one click and you zoom in anyways rather that fiddling around with 2 fingers.</p>

<p>I think some people on here just have to say maybe there is better out there than the iphone because i can tell you there is.</p>

<p>the touch has better features is more powerfull (in comparison) has the better sound and screen and it my opinion the UI&#8217;s are on par.</p>

<p>And in regards from above where you ended in &#8220;posted from my iphone&#8221; WOW no other phone does this! no wait a minute yes they do and you know what the touch does it better as it has a better keyboard!</p>

<p>I am not meaning to offend anyone but get sick of iphone owners thinking nothing will ever beat it.</p>

<p>AT THE END OF THE DAY ITS A PHONE SOMETHING YOU CALL PEEPS ON ANS TXT FROM</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Vanella</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/09/17/attack-of-the-iclones-htc-touch-hd-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-17482</link>
		<dc:creator>Vanella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You wanna know the best device out there that beats the iphone? simple; HTC TOUCH HD. Its indescribable. JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. I PAID $800.00 FOR THIS PHONE AND IT WAS WORTH IT MAN, you buy it and prove me wrong.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You wanna know the best device out there that beats the iphone? simple; HTC TOUCH HD. Its indescribable. JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT. I PAID $800.00 FOR THIS PHONE AND IT WAS WORTH IT MAN, you buy it and prove me wrong.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: iphone fanboys r scared</title>
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		<dc:creator>iphone fanboys r scared</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Oct 2008 22:09:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;lol ryan every one of the iphone fan boy r jumping on yah ass lol wow the just scard lol yall apple reject is funny..dnt lie that touch hd is better in many ways&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol ryan every one of the iphone fan boy r jumping on yah <acronym title="ass">***</acronym> lol wow the just scard lol yall apple reject is funny..dnt lie that touch hd is better in many ways</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ryan Fox</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/09/17/attack-of-the-iclones-htc-touch-hd-edition/comment-page-1/#comment-15368</link>
		<dc:creator>Ryan Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Here&#039;s a very detailed article regarding the iPhone and Podcaster, and Apple&#039;s Orwellian practices:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://www.rgbfilter.com/?p=202&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a very detailed article regarding the iPhone and Podcaster, and Apple&#8217;s Orwellian practices:</p>

<p><a href="http://www.rgbfilter.com/?p=202" rel="nofollow">http://www.rgbfilter.com/?p=202</a></p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Ryan Fox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Fox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ rufus_ryker:  I spite of your snarky post, I DID look it up, and...you&#039;re right :)  Oops :)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Thanks for the correction.  Dunno why you gotta be so snarky...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ rufus_ryker:  I spite of your snarky post, I DID look it up, and&#8230;you&#8217;re right <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   Oops <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>Thanks for the correction.  Dunno why you gotta be so snarky&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mark Palmos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Palmos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 14:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hello,
I&#039;m in the market for a new phone and this Touch HD looks like the one to beat. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I dont know Touch HD will handle music, but the way iPod and iPhone handle music is THE REASON why I have never bought an ipod or iphone, and probably never will, despite having a 17inch macbook pro and 8 core macpro of my own... &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;here&#039;s why:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I love music.
I listen to ALBUMS, I never listen to compilations, or single tracks and never use shuffle on any music listening device... I love music too much to be such a pleb.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I download or rip albums to a folder, I sort out the id3 tags, get biographies, reviews, lyrics if its something that deserves to be fully understood, and save all that in the same folder containing the album of mp3 files.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;When I want to play it on my generic-usb-connectable music device, I simply connect my player to a computer then drag and drop all the folders i want to the player. Done.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;mp3&#039;s players are great, convenient, but digital file players have removed the connection music fans once had - especially with vinyl, where the records breathed life, if you treated them badly they got scratched, and you had to attend to them, could FEEL them, hold them, touch them... digital loses that. So in trying to recreate some of that connection when listening to music, I love to read about the artist and look at images related. With a good mp3 player, I can then very easily access the text/html/image files related to that artist/album because they are in the same folder I had copied over from my computer. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A good mp3 player would never prevent this workflow. Ipod does.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;A big problem with Apple is their arrogance over their way of doing things. Its a bit like Paris compared to London. In Paris you will find a lot of style, people generally very well dressed and &quot;tasteful&quot; but heck, the variety is NOTHING compared to London or New York. In Paris you have to do it the Parisian way or get frowned at. Apple are definitely like Paris, and PC is like the wild west, anything goes, some crap, some fantastic.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I would definitely buy an iphone if it would just allow this kind of workflow - which you can do with almost all it&#039;s competition... &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Mark
Mark.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello,
I&#8217;m in the market for a new phone and this Touch HD looks like the one to beat. </p>

<p>I dont know Touch HD will handle music, but the way iPod and iPhone handle music is THE REASON why I have never bought an ipod or iphone, and probably never will, despite having a 17inch macbook pro and 8 core macpro of my own&#8230; </p>

<p>here&#8217;s why:</p>

<p>I love music.
I listen to ALBUMS, I never listen to compilations, or single tracks and never use shuffle on any music listening device&#8230; I love music too much to be such a pleb.</p>

<p>When I download or rip albums to a folder, I sort out the id3 tags, get biographies, reviews, lyrics if its something that deserves to be fully understood, and save all that in the same folder containing the album of mp3 files.</p>

<p>When I want to play it on my generic-usb-connectable music device, I simply connect my player to a computer then drag and drop all the folders i want to the player. Done.</p>

<p>mp3&#8217;s players are great, convenient, but digital file players have removed the connection music fans once had &#8211; especially with vinyl, where the records breathed life, if you treated them badly they got scratched, and you had to attend to them, could FEEL them, hold them, touch them&#8230; digital loses that. So in trying to recreate some of that connection when listening to music, I love to read about the artist and look at images related. With a good mp3 player, I can then very easily access the text/html/image files related to that artist/album because they are in the same folder I had copied over from my computer. </p>

<p>A good mp3 player would never prevent this workflow. Ipod does.</p>

<p>A big problem with Apple is their arrogance over their way of doing things. Its a bit like Paris compared to London. In Paris you will find a lot of style, people generally very well dressed and &#8220;tasteful&#8221; but heck, the variety is NOTHING compared to London or New York. In Paris you have to do it the Parisian way or get frowned at. Apple are definitely like Paris, and PC is like the wild west, anything goes, some <acronym title="crap">****</acronym>, some fantastic.</p>

<p>I would definitely buy an iphone if it would just allow this kind of workflow &#8211; which you can do with almost all it&#8217;s competition&#8230; </p>

<p>Mark
Mark.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: jlc61</title>
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		<dc:creator>jlc61</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 10:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;As a long time pam and Treo (POS and WM versions) user, I find my new iPhone &#039;s screen and UI a real joy - the first time browsing and viewing dcumenst is really useful versus painful.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;However, if Apple is serious about the business market they need to look at what the BB/Treo/ et. al. can do from aproductivity standpoint and turn tehir apps into better tools.  I fin it odd that Apple did not look at oteh rdevices used in busienss and incorporate the features that made them useful - cut and paste; clander event management (invite as well as accept), event coloring, robust event scheduling and repeating with many customization options, calender views taht show free/booked time as time bars, task synch etc.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The also missed a chance to really innovate - for exaple add in as contacts the results of web searches (why can&#039;t I add in the hotel address and phone number after I look it up?)
Even worse, tehy&#039;ve apparently made teh data stores inaccessable to 3rd parties so companies such as iambic will have to cretae their own stores.  Having gone that route on a 700p it&#039;s a real mess - apps can&#039;t exchange data so unless you do everything i one suite you&#039;re phone rapidly becomes a mess of different contcts/calenders/email.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a long time pam and Treo (POS and WM versions) user, I find my new iPhone &#8217;s screen and UI a real joy &#8211; the first time browsing and viewing dcumenst is really useful versus painful.</p>

<p>However, if Apple is serious about the business market they need to look at what the BB/Treo/ et. al. can do from aproductivity standpoint and turn tehir apps into better tools.  I fin it odd that Apple did not look at oteh rdevices used in busienss and incorporate the features that made them useful &#8211; cut and paste; clander event management (invite as well as accept), event coloring, robust event scheduling and repeating with many customization options, calender views taht show free/booked time as time bars, task synch etc.</p>

<p>The also missed a chance to really innovate &#8211; for exaple add in as contacts the results of web searches (why can&#8217;t I add in the hotel address and phone number after I look it up?)
Even worse, tehy&#8217;ve apparently made teh data stores inaccessable to 3rd parties so companies such as iambic will have to cretae their own stores.  Having gone that route on a 700p it&#8217;s a real mess &#8211; apps can&#8217;t exchange data so unless you do everything i one suite you&#8217;re phone rapidly becomes a mess of different contcts/calenders/email.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ryrycalguy</title>
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		<dc:creator>ryrycalguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@stephman&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I used to have the T-mo wing and AT&amp;T tilt.......I REALLY have no idea what you&#039;re talking about!  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My Tilt (and the wing) crashed all the time.  I hate Windows Mobile and will never go back to it again because I haven&#039;t had many great experiences with it.  Even if the Touch HD has a pretty UI, it&#039;s still WinMo and I say no to that.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just because you preface your bombastic statements with, &quot;Sorry to say but...&quot;, doesn&#039;t make your statement that much more credible or smarter.  Next time try, &quot;In my experience...&quot;  Thanks!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@stephman</p>

<p>I used to have the T-mo wing and AT&amp;T tilt&#8230;&#8230;.I REALLY have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about!  </p>

<p>My Tilt (and the wing) crashed all the time.  I hate Windows Mobile and will never go back to it again because I haven&#8217;t had many great experiences with it.  Even if the Touch HD has a pretty UI, it&#8217;s still WinMo and I say no to that.</p>

<p>Just because you preface your bombastic statements with, &#8220;Sorry to say but&#8230;&#8221;, doesn&#8217;t make your statement that much more credible or smarter.  Next time try, &#8220;In my experience&#8230;&#8221;  Thanks!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Sep 2008 04:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Openning caveat: I am a long time Apple user but I am also a Windows Mobile fan who switched the iPhone to check it out.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been bashing the iPhone for a while. Primarily because of the bugs and dropped call. But also because of its poor email program, bad exchange integration, and the lack of a today screen (a business basic as far as I&#039;m concerned).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway, I excitedly bought the Touch Diamond for Sprint and must confess it makes me appreciate the good of the iPhone a lot more. It also means that I don&#039;t think the Touch HD will be that big a competitor.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;For starters, the touch screens aren&#039;t even close. Maybe I&#039;m just used to capacitive touchscreen now, but I find the Diamond&#039;s touch screen hard to use and non-responsive so times. Since the Touch HD screen is resistive as well (Based on reports of a stylus) I don&#039;t see this improving.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Secondly, beyond TouchFlo 3D which is pretty limited the OS is not finger friendly. I was able to do all the same things, but everything seemed that much harder.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Bottom line, until perhaps Windows Mobile 7, Windows Mobile will not be able to compete in the Touch Screen only battle.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Last thought - Fix the dropped calls ATT and Apple!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Openning caveat: I am a long time Apple user but I am also a Windows Mobile fan who switched the iPhone to check it out.</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve been bashing the iPhone for a while. Primarily because of the bugs and dropped call. But also because of its poor email program, bad exchange integration, and the lack of a today screen (a business basic as far as I&#8217;m concerned).</p>

<p>Anyway, I excitedly bought the Touch Diamond for Sprint and must confess it makes me appreciate the good of the iPhone a lot more. It also means that I don&#8217;t think the Touch HD will be that big a competitor.</p>

<p>For starters, the touch screens aren&#8217;t even close. Maybe I&#8217;m just used to capacitive touchscreen now, but I find the Diamond&#8217;s touch screen hard to use and non-responsive so times. Since the Touch HD screen is resistive as well (Based on reports of a stylus) I don&#8217;t see this improving.</p>

<p>Secondly, beyond TouchFlo 3D which is pretty limited the OS is not finger friendly. I was able to do all the same things, but everything seemed that much harder.</p>

<p>Bottom line, until perhaps Windows Mobile 7, Windows Mobile will not be able to compete in the Touch Screen only battle.</p>

<p>Last thought &#8211; Fix the dropped calls ATT and Apple!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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