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	<title>Comments on: TiPb Answers: Should Apple Have Released Push Notification Services with iPhone 2.1?</title>
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		<title>By: rahim</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/10/02/tipb-answers-should-apple-have-released-push-notification-services-with-iphone-21/comment-page-1/#comment-21772</link>
		<dc:creator>rahim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 15:54:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;anyidea how to do forward sms&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>anyidea how to do forward sms</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mrHiDefinition</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrHiDefinition</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Oct 2008 00:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Yeah they should have. That was one of the mistakes that Apple made when putting out the 2.0 firmware. Apple should have included push notifications with the initial 2.0 firmware.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah they should have. That was one of the mistakes that Apple made when putting out the 2.0 firmware. Apple should have included push notifications with the initial 2.0 firmware.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: dloveprod</title>
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		<dc:creator>dloveprod</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 21:38:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I&#039;d rather them wait until it&#039;s done, no more buggy software, but they at least need to let people know what&#039;s going on, I mean it was announced publically&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d rather them wait until it&#8217;s done, no more buggy software, but they at least need to let people know what&#8217;s going on, I mean it was announced publically</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Bill Taroli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Taroli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 18:52:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t disagree about what they did with 2.1. This is common practice with software products... cutting scope to deliver additional (and necessary!) fixes. But I am concerned a bit about what signal it sends that Notifications are also not in 2.2. We&#039;re getting past the bug stage -- though I personally still find 3G connectivity unreliable, I can&#039;t necessarily put that at Apple&#039;s feet -- and it&#039;s time to start closing feature/functionality gaps.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That said, the application for which I would most WANT notifications, IM, has a lovely and working alternative in Beejive IM. I find that using SMS for &quot;background&quot; notification works /extremely/ well, and others seem to agree (forum). Push email is still a joke, and I&#039;m hoping with Notifications will come real-world support for IMAP IDLE (which the /rest/ of the world, with /background apps/, has be default today).&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;SDK holes, app functionality holes... time to get out the shovel, Apple, and start filling them in!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t disagree about what they did with 2.1. This is common practice with software products&#8230; cutting scope to deliver additional (and necessary!) fixes. But I am concerned a bit about what signal it sends that Notifications are also not in 2.2. We&#8217;re getting past the bug stage &#8212; though I personally still find 3G connectivity unreliable, I can&#8217;t necessarily put that at Apple&#8217;s feet &#8212; and it&#8217;s time to start closing feature/functionality gaps.</p>

<p>That said, the application for which I would most WANT notifications, IM, has a lovely and working alternative in Beejive IM. I find that using SMS for &#8220;background&#8221; notification works /extremely/ well, and others seem to agree (forum). Push email is still a joke, and I&#8217;m hoping with Notifications will come real-world support for IMAP IDLE (which the /rest/ of the world, with /background apps/, has be default today).</p>

<p>SDK holes, app functionality holes&#8230; time to get out the shovel, Apple, and start filling them in!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Dalekkiller</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dalekkiller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Given the problems they had over the summer with 2 updates being released 2 weeks apart, I&#039;d rather wait until they got it right. Yes, it&#039;s a bit frustrating not having push notifications but it&#039;s not the end of the world especially when it will eventually arrive. I&#039;m happy that everything is now working on my iphone and the last thing I want is to go through all those weeks of bugs and crashes again.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Given the problems they had over the summer with 2 updates being released 2 weeks apart, I&#8217;d rather wait until they got it right. Yes, it&#8217;s a bit frustrating not having push notifications but it&#8217;s not the end of the world especially when it will eventually arrive. I&#8217;m happy that everything is now working on my iphone and the last thing I want is to go through all those weeks of bugs and crashes again.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 16:09:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;i think they are waiting on a way to allow a channel for all programs to be able to turn push off through settings. i think that is what is holding them up. otherwise every program could use push notify and would be up to the programmer if they want to allow it to be turned off. creating a centralized push notify conduit cant be easy&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i think they are waiting on a way to allow a channel for all programs to be able to turn push off through settings. i think that is what is holding them up. otherwise every program could use push notify and would be up to the programmer if they want to allow it to be turned off. creating a centralized push notify conduit cant be easy</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Aron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 14:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;No. Things should be released when ready.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. Things should be released when ready.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: The Reptile</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reptile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Oct 2008 13:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I agree that they did the right thing by waiting.  My sense is that the group in charge of push is the same group in charge of iTunes and charged with fixing MobileMe after it&#039;s disaster of a start.  That&#039;s a lot on the organization and it would make sense for them to hold back until things are stable before they venture out into new territory.  There&#039;s a whole lot of time between now and the end of the year.  My guess is that this is in place before the end of the year.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that they did the right thing by waiting.  My sense is that the group in charge of push is the same group in charge of iTunes and charged with fixing MobileMe after it&#8217;s disaster of a start.  That&#8217;s a lot on the organization and it would make sense for them to hold back until things are stable before they venture out into new territory.  There&#8217;s a whole lot of time between now and the end of the year.  My guess is that this is in place before the end of the year.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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