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	<title>Comments on: UK Government Pulls Another iPhone 3G Ad</title>
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		<title>By: iPhone 3G</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/11/27/uk-government-pulls-iphone-3g-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-36599</link>
		<dc:creator>iPhone 3G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Totally agree with Press&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Jeremy, I&#039;m sorry but your just plain wrong...&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Totally agree with Press</p>

<p>Jeremy, I&#8217;m sorry but your just plain wrong&#8230;</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Press</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/11/27/uk-government-pulls-iphone-3g-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-21881</link>
		<dc:creator>Press</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Dec 2008 09:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;It&#039;s obvious what Apple was doing here and they diserve what they got.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The reason they didn&#039;t put a big NOWHERE NEAR AS FAST AS THIS sticker across the ad is because they wanted the gen public (who, as it&#039;s been said, are much less tech savvy than all of us here) to think it was that fast and buy it, be disapponted - yet not enough to complain - and just shut up about it. That&#039;s not right.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;As for these ludicrous examples flying around about cookies, spidermen and the like - they fall flat because they are clearly based on fantasy and no one with the common sense that jeremy loves so much would rightfully believe them to be true. The iPhone 3G ad, however, is clearly based on reality. Is it too much to ask for the consumer to expect it to be even mildly realistic?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I love and appreciate my iPhone (faults and all), but like Daniel, not so much that I&#039;m willing to turn a blind eye to Apple&#039;s faults. Incidentally, I&#039;d like to thank Daniel for level-headedly providing the much needed balance he spoke of at the begining of these response posts. P&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s obvious what Apple was doing here and they diserve what they got.</p>

<p>The reason they didn&#8217;t put a big NOWHERE NEAR AS FAST AS THIS sticker across the ad is because they wanted the gen public (who, as it&#8217;s been said, are much less tech savvy than all of us here) to think it was that fast and buy it, be disapponted &#8211; yet not enough to complain &#8211; and just shut up about it. That&#8217;s not right.</p>

<p>As for these ludicrous examples flying around about cookies, spidermen and the like &#8211; they fall flat because they are clearly based on fantasy and no one with the common sense that jeremy loves so much would rightfully believe them to be true. The iPhone 3G ad, however, is clearly based on reality. Is it too much to ask for the consumer to expect it to be even mildly realistic?</p>

<p>I love and appreciate my iPhone (faults and all), but like Daniel, not so much that I&#8217;m willing to turn a blind eye to Apple&#8217;s faults. Incidentally, I&#8217;d like to thank Daniel for level-headedly providing the much needed balance he spoke of at the begining of these response posts. P</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Another Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/11/27/uk-government-pulls-iphone-3g-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-21736</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:40:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Some of you really are clueless, the ads are not aimed at fans! Its aimed to sell as many units as possible. If the advert had not repeatedly said FAST all the way through then i agree theres no problem, but it emphasized speed many times and non geeks will assume its as fast as shown. Its all deliberately designed to con the public and sell more phones. Millions is spent on these ads, they know exactly what they are doing. You must either like being treated dumb or have clouded judgement because of you love for the your iphones, which i agree is a good phone (but overpriced)&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Theres no point countering, because all the above is true.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of you really are clueless, the ads are not aimed at fans! Its aimed to sell as many units as possible. If the advert had not repeatedly said FAST all the way through then i agree theres no problem, but it emphasized speed many times and non geeks will assume its as fast as shown. Its all deliberately designed to con the public and sell more phones. Millions is spent on these ads, they know exactly what they are doing. You must either like being treated dumb or have clouded judgement because of you love for the your iphones, which i agree is a good phone (but overpriced)</p>

<p>Theres no point countering, because all the above is true.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alex Candy</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/11/27/uk-government-pulls-iphone-3g-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-21676</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 19:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Steve - I agree a trailer for a movie is an advertisment, but the product is just the movie. No one would expect a character in a movie to be real, however they would expect a trailer to advertise a real movie. I mean if you watched a trailer for say Spriderman and it showed lots of special effects and real actors. Then when you went to see the movie and it turned out to be a cartoon you would of been the victim of false advertising. By the way most movies here show in the credits a line that states something like. &quot;The characters in this movie are fictional and any resemblance between people living or dead is purely coincidental&quot;?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Also how did I say that the iPhone can be used as a lie detector? &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Anyway what we think does not matter. Apple was using incorrect information in an advert and the ASA had the adv pulled. In the UK if you lie to the public you should expect to be sued.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In this case the fact the Apple lied to the public has been in the papers but I don&#039;t think it will effect iPhone sales.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Alex&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; I agree a trailer for a movie is an advertisment, but the product is just the movie. No one would expect a character in a movie to be real, however they would expect a trailer to advertise a real movie. I mean if you watched a trailer for say Spriderman and it showed lots of special effects and real actors. Then when you went to see the movie and it turned out to be a cartoon you would of been the victim of false advertising. By the way most movies here show in the credits a line that states something like. &#8220;The characters in this movie are fictional and any resemblance between people living or dead is purely coincidental&#8221;?</p>

<p>Also how did I say that the iPhone can be used as a lie detector? </p>

<p>Anyway what we think does not matter. Apple was using incorrect information in an advert and the ASA had the adv pulled. In the UK if you lie to the public you should expect to be sued.</p>

<p>In this case the fact the Apple lied to the public has been in the papers but I don&#8217;t think it will effect iPhone sales.</p>

<p>Alex</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/11/27/uk-government-pulls-iphone-3g-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-21666</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 16:57:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Alex:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I wasn&#039;t talking about a character, but rather a &quot;TRAILER&quot; which IS indeed an &quot;ADVERTISEMENT.&quot; But then, look who I&#039;m replying to... a person who thinks the iPhone can be used as lie detector.  Read more carefully next time before replying with foolishness. :lol:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Daniel: You&#039;re lack of comprehension doesn&#039;t make my point stupid, but it does make... well... I&#039;ll let you try to think about that for awhile. :D&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex:</p>

<p>I wasn&#8217;t talking about a character, but rather a &#8220;TRAILER&#8221; which IS indeed an &#8220;ADVERTISEMENT.&#8221; But then, look who I&#8217;m replying to&#8230; a person who thinks the iPhone can be used as lie detector.  Read more carefully next time before replying with foolishness. <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>

<p>Daniel: You&#8217;re lack of comprehension doesn&#8217;t make my point stupid, but it does make&#8230; well&#8230; I&#8217;ll let you try to think about that for awhile. <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/11/27/uk-government-pulls-iphone-3g-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-21648</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 11:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;stupid point steve&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>stupid point steve</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alex Candy</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/11/27/uk-government-pulls-iphone-3g-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-21590</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 16:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Steve - A character in a movie is not the same as a product is it? I mean the product in a movie trailer is just the movie.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve &#8211; A character in a movie is not the same as a product is it? I mean the product in a movie trailer is just the movie.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 15:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Soooo... do they tell you James Bond isn&#039;t real in your movie trailers? Or Spiderman? After all, we wouldn&#039;t want you paying to see a movie that wasn&#039;t real. :roll:&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Soooo&#8230; do they tell you James Bond isn&#8217;t real in your movie trailers? Or Spiderman? After all, we wouldn&#8217;t want you paying to see a movie that wasn&#8217;t real. <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_rolleyes.gif' alt=':roll:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/11/27/uk-government-pulls-iphone-3g-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-21575</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 12:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;very well put alex&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>very well put alex</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Alex Candy</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/11/27/uk-government-pulls-iphone-3g-ad/comment-page-1/#comment-21574</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Candy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Nov 2008 11:59:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Hi &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The first thing that I want to say is that this site is about the iPhone, as a result there is a good chance that most readers are iPhone fans. We are not the general public and have some knowledge of what to expect from a phone. However someone with no or little knowledge of cell or mobile phones &quot;&quot;could or would&quot;&quot; expect to get the speeds as shown in the advert. All Apple had to do was make it clear that the images where not shown in real time. Other mobile phone manufacturers when trying to show how good their product is for playing games or watching TV have had to state in the advert that a simulation has been used. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Second point the United States and the United Kingdom may use a similar language but they are not the same country and in some ways very different. Example - an advert for a cold and flu treatment in the UK would show the person with the cold feeling crap at the start of the ad. By the end of the advert after using the product they would be shown to feel better and might even be up to going for a walk with the dog. However they would not be 100% fit. The advert for the same product in the States would start the same but end with the person who was ill having a great time with his or her friends at a bowling alley and being 100% fit. In the UK we expect it to do what it says on the tin! A few months ago I saw an advert on US tv for a breakfast ready meal. This was an egg and bacon product that you heat in the microwave. The ad was saying that this is so much better than cereal. In the UK if they wanted to say that it was better than cereal they would have to prove that the nutritional content was better that the average cereal.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I am not saying that British people believe everything that they are told in an advert, just that we have laws to stop people being mis-sold a product. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Alex&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi </p>

<p>The first thing that I want to say is that this site is about the iPhone, as a result there is a good chance that most readers are iPhone fans. We are not the general public and have some knowledge of what to expect from a phone. However someone with no or little knowledge of cell or mobile phones &#8220;&#8221;could or would&#8221;" expect to get the speeds as shown in the advert. All Apple had to do was make it clear that the images where not shown in real time. Other mobile phone manufacturers when trying to show how good their product is for playing games or watching TV have had to state in the advert that a simulation has been used. </p>

<p>Second point the United States and the United Kingdom may use a similar language but they are not the same country and in some ways very different. Example &#8211; an advert for a cold and flu treatment in the UK would show the person with the cold feeling <acronym title="crap">****</acronym> at the start of the ad. By the end of the advert after using the product they would be shown to feel better and might even be up to going for a walk with the dog. However they would not be 100% fit. The advert for the same product in the States would start the same but end with the person who was ill having a great time with his or her friends at a bowling alley and being 100% fit. In the UK we expect it to do what it says on the tin! A few months ago I saw an advert on US tv for a breakfast ready meal. This was an egg and bacon product that you heat in the microwave. The ad was saying that this is so much better than cereal. In the UK if they wanted to say that it was better than cereal they would have to prove that the nutritional content was better that the average cereal.</p>

<p>I am not saying that British people believe everything that they are told in an advert, just that we have laws to stop people being mis-sold a product. </p>

<p>Alex</p>]]></content:encoded>
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