Comments on: Macalope: Why There’s No Flash or Java For the iPhone http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/12/12/macalope-flash-java-iphone/ For people who dare to Phone Different. Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:50:24 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: lev http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/12/12/macalope-flash-java-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-23813 lev Mon, 15 Dec 2008 09:58:53 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=6016#comment-23813 <p>hell yeah that's right I agree with Steve 100% plus I believe apple don't want flash on the phone right now because they have a plan of when they want it to come out first they came with edge then 3g now it's going to be flash. Watch what I tell u iPhone with flash June 2009. Be ready to upgrade.</p> hell yeah that’s right I agree with Steve 100% plus I believe apple don’t want flash on the phone right now because they have a plan of when they want it to come out first they came with edge then 3g now it’s going to be flash. Watch what I tell u iPhone with flash June 2009. Be ready to upgrade.

]]> By: Steve http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/12/12/macalope-flash-java-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-23669 Steve Sat, 13 Dec 2008 13:07:36 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=6016#comment-23669 <p>Sorry, but I'll only believe Apple or Adobe telling me it can't be done.</p> <p>When the Wright Brothers were experimenting with flight, all known engines of the time were far too weak and way too heavy to get a person off the ground... and making them more powerful only made them heavier. So they figured something out. That what Apple does. They figure things out. Good thing THEY'RE not quitters.</p> Sorry, but I’ll only believe Apple or Adobe telling me it can’t be done.

When the Wright Brothers were experimenting with flight, all known engines of the time were far too weak and way too heavy to get a person off the ground… and making them more powerful only made them heavier. So they figured something out. That what Apple does. They figure things out. Good thing THEY’RE not quitters.

]]> By: Rene Ritchie http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/12/12/macalope-flash-java-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-23654 Rene Ritchie Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:45:18 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=6016#comment-23654 <p>I believe Skyfire is a server-side proxy browser, i.e. you don't actually get webpagesm but when you ask for one, Skyfire's server fetches it instead, renders it, and sends you a graphic representing the pre-crunched version of the site optimized for your phone.</p> <p>One huge problem with this, of course, is that the process kills SSL (secure socket) connections, which is a security concern and pretty much means security conscious folks will stay away from it (much like Opera Mini)</p> I believe Skyfire is a server-side proxy browser, i.e. you don’t actually get webpagesm but when you ask for one, Skyfire’s server fetches it instead, renders it, and sends you a graphic representing the pre-crunched version of the site optimized for your phone.

One huge problem with this, of course, is that the process kills SSL (secure socket) connections, which is a security concern and pretty much means security conscious folks will stay away from it (much like Opera Mini)

]]> By: John Ith http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/12/12/macalope-flash-java-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-23653 John Ith Sat, 13 Dec 2008 02:41:34 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=6016#comment-23653 <p>Ummmm... Skyfire did it why cant iphone?</p> Ummmm… Skyfire did it why cant iphone?

]]> By: Satoshi Nakajima http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/12/12/macalope-flash-java-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-23644 Satoshi Nakajima Fri, 12 Dec 2008 23:41:24 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=6016#comment-23644 <p>The answer is very simple. Flash is not technically practical on iPhone. </p> <ol> <li>Full version of Flash is too big, too slow for iPhone</li> <li>Flash-lite is so lame (not compatible with latest Flash on PC/Mac, etc.)</li> <li>iPhone's CPU is not so fast</li> <li>iPhone's GPU is decent, but Flash is not able to take advantage of it</li> <li>Many Flash contents on Web are too big for iPhone</li> </ol> The answer is very simple. Flash is not technically practical on iPhone.

  1. Full version of Flash is too big, too slow for iPhone
  2. Flash-lite is so lame (not compatible with latest Flash on PC/Mac, etc.)
  3. iPhone’s CPU is not so fast
  4. iPhone’s GPU is decent, but Flash is not able to take advantage of it
  5. Many Flash contents on Web are too big for iPhone
]]> By: Steve http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/12/12/macalope-flash-java-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-23608 Steve Fri, 12 Dec 2008 18:56:46 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=6016#comment-23608 <p>Yes, isn't it amazing how after some Apple-haters were blown away by the iPhone, they still haven't grasped the concept of Apple's superior innovation? Nope. They believe because Flash blows on their last piece-of-sh*t phones, it will have to blow on the iPhone too. How could Apple and Adobe POSSIBLY deliver a great Flash experience on the iPhone without Bill Gates and his team of retards involved? It can't be DONE!! They've already TRIED!!! :lol:</p> Yes, isn’t it amazing how after some Apple-haters were blown away by the iPhone, they still haven’t grasped the concept of Apple’s superior innovation? Nope. They believe because Flash blows on their last piece-of-sh*t phones, it will have to blow on the iPhone too. How could Apple and Adobe POSSIBLY deliver a great Flash experience on the iPhone without Bill Gates and his team of retards involved? It can’t be DONE!! They’ve already TRIED!!! :lol:

]]> By: fassy http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/12/12/macalope-flash-java-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-23603 fassy Fri, 12 Dec 2008 17:41:03 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=6016#comment-23603 <p>Some unsubstantiated opinions based on the conjecture of paid analyst Rob Enderle, whose previous claims to fame include predicting the death of Bluetooth back in 2004, backing the technically meritless (and losing) side of the SCO/Linux debacle in 2007, Vista performing vastly better in the marketplace in 2008, and Apple being badly hurt in 2008 by its end-of-2007 laptop lineup and Leopard. Very credible.</p> Some unsubstantiated opinions based on the conjecture of paid analyst Rob Enderle, whose previous claims to fame include predicting the death of Bluetooth back in 2004, backing the technically meritless (and losing) side of the SCO/Linux debacle in 2007, Vista performing vastly better in the marketplace in 2008, and Apple being badly hurt in 2008 by its end-of-2007 laptop lineup and Leopard. Very credible.

]]> By: Steve http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2008/12/12/macalope-flash-java-iphone/comment-page-1/#comment-23591 Steve Fri, 12 Dec 2008 15:25:11 +0000 http://www.theiphoneblog.com/?p=6016#comment-23591 <p>Macadope! :lol:</p> Macadope! :lol:

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