Comments on: Multi-Touch Patents, You Belong to Apple Now

By: PacoBell

PacoBell — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 11:14:54 +0000

Palm must LIVE if there is to be any modicum of competition in the market!

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 22:27:30 +0000

Palm must die!

By: M. Elwan

M. Elwan — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:27:25 +0000

Only time will tell. They will battle it in court and we shall see.

By: Informed

Informed — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 20:20:34 +0000

Either case, you have to admit the patent Apple was granted does not cover Cypress Semiconductor multi-touch/pinch/zoom technology. Although the ideas in the Palm Pre and the iphones multi-touch may have some similarities the technologies do not have the same design. TV manufacturers tried unsuccessfully to make the argument one was stealing from the other, if thee original TV manufacturer had been successful we would all be using/buying the same TV-Set. Same holds true for most electronics.

By: M. Elwan

M. Elwan — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:56:41 +0000

My point regarding optimization was taken from your source, WebOS’s blog: “Palm Pre will most likely use the Cypress’ TrueTouch Touchscreen Solution CY8CTMG110-32LTXI which is a capacitive touchscreen controller optimised for screens up to 4.3 inches in size.” And then it goes on saying how the Projected Capacitive is superior when compared to Resistive and Surface. My point is that the iPhone uses Projected which is among the best in it’s class. You were claiming it uses “Plain o’l capacitive”, remember?

By: Informed

Informed — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 19:27:33 +0000

@M. Elwan

I am well aware the Pre uses TrueTouch Projective Capacitive, my point is the iphone does not. You saying the Pre is using an "optimized" version of TrueTouch makes no sense, last I checked the Pre's touch screen has not been designed before. As for the patents, if you check you will see that a dual sensor basically means multi-touch. As for pinch/zoom, once this is challenge in the courts Apples so-called patent will be thrown out. It is much easier filing for a patent, defending it is much-much tougher. If Apple chooses to sue Palm or whom ever else this will drag on for years, in the mean time the Pre will get free publicity/advertisement.

By: M. Elwan

M. Elwan — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:29:19 +0000

@ Steve Jobs: thanx for sharing that article. It's dated back to Jun 6th and it says the Nano G4 will use that screen as well. So, the "upcoming iPhone" is indeed the iPhone 3G (since the 3G wasn't out till Jun 11th if I remember correctly).

@ Informed: TrueTouch is a form of Projected Capacitive, not a whole new technology. The only difference is that TrueTouch is optimized for specific screen size that the Pre uses. If you check the comparison chart on WebOS's blog, you will see that the Projected Capacitive is listed as the ultimate quality.

My argument remains valid regarding the patents you posted; these patents represent the technical side (same argument in your original post). They do NOT address the multi-touch gestures such as pinching (for zooming) and many more.

By: Ernest

Ernest — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 18:15:03 +0000

Lets stop arguing guys. Let the court decides the case. I guess, Ex Apple guys brought the technogy to Palm.

By: Informed

Informed — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:38:53 +0000

@M. Elwan

Credibility?! You’re saying I am disrespecting the writers when there is zero objectivity and a BIAS in their article? Please! You found Palm webOS good for you, what is your argument? In that Blog you should have learned that the iphone and the Pre DO-NOT use the same screen.

I want to make a correction, the Palm Pre uses True-Touch Capacitive multi-touch

http://download.cypress.com/truetouch/CY8CTMG110.pdf

Also, since you’re implying Palm “stole” gestures from the iphone, let’s see the evidence you have!

Here are patents that were given before Apple, just to name a few:

US Patent 6492979 – Dual sensor touchscreen utilizing projective-capacitive and force touch Issued on December 10, 2002

US Patent 6297811 – Projective capacitive touchscreen Issued on October 2, 2001

By: Ernest

Ernest — Tue, 27 Jan 2009 16:36:56 +0000

about time for mighty APPLE to rift the benefits of their hardwork and investment. Hope this will give some iclonic companies pause to think their strategy to compete with the JESUS PHONE. Back to the drawing board PALM. CONGRATULATIONS TO APPLE AND THEIR DEDICATED HARDWORKING TEAM.