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	<title>Comments on: iPhone SDK &#8220;Hostile&#8221; Compared to Palm Pre&#8217;s Mojo?</title>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/01/30/iphone-sdk-hostile-compared-palm-pres-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-62996</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jul 2009 20:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;When we get an alternative browser and 3rd party apps are allowed to run in the background then you will know if Apple really cares about developers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When we get an alternative browser and 3rd party apps are allowed to run in the background then you will know if Apple really cares about developers.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: ohno</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/01/30/iphone-sdk-hostile-compared-palm-pres-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-30322</link>
		<dc:creator>ohno</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 05:28:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I personally like the iPhone, however I have Sprint and really am looking forward to the Pre to see what it can do.  My question tho is this - why does it always seem in discussions about these phones that this is a war with one phone trying to kill the other?  Does it matter?  The world seems big enough to me to have two successful phones and platforms.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Success is relative, and it wouldn&#039;t take much of one to make Palm look spectacular compared to their performance the past couple of years.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Just a thought.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally like the iPhone, however I have Sprint and really am looking forward to the Pre to see what it can do.  My question tho is this &#8211; why does it always seem in discussions about these phones that this is a war with one phone trying to kill the other?  Does it matter?  The world seems big enough to me to have two successful phones and platforms.</p>

<p>Success is relative, and it wouldn&#8217;t take much of one to make Palm look spectacular compared to their performance the past couple of years.</p>

<p>Just a thought.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: fassy</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/01/30/iphone-sdk-hostile-compared-palm-pres-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-29927</link>
		<dc:creator>fassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 22:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;This really should not be a surprise, much less controversial.  Apple has &lt;em&gt;never&lt;/em&gt; given developers as much support as they want.  Windows did not trounce MacOS because it was superior, but (in part) because Microsoft bent over backwards for &quot;developers, developers, developers.&quot;  Microsoft made a deliberate choice to court developers of every size and shape, which resulted in Windows having a far larger and richer application base, at the cost of consistency and occasionally stability.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple, just as deliberately, made the opposite choice -- almost a &quot;my way or the highway&quot; message to developers, as well as far less hand-holding.   This allowed for more clearly focused platform design, and arguably, a higher average application quality.  But the Mac market shrunk due to this disadvantage and, especially as industry-specific one-off applications became more and more significant, the business market voted for Windows, dragging most of the rest of us along with it.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Will this be a concern for the iPhone long-term?  It is not as clear that the smartphone market shares many of the same driving forces as the PC market.  As long as the smartphone remains a simple, broad-based device, absolutely not -- that covets Apple&#039;s strengths, and does not strongly value Microsoft&#039;s approach.  If (or when) smartphones start to take on more and more single-purpose functionality requiring low-level customization, Apple&#039;s SDK restrictions, and their history of less-than-stellar developer support, could very well put them at a disadvantage compared to Android, Palm, or even WinCE.  Of course, even for that to matter, some person (or, more likely, corporate shop) would have to develop a fantastically useful application that is either not possible with the iphone SDK or not possible without the levels of support Apple historically has not provided.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple has a strong headstart with a great platform, though, and an object lesson in their own history.  Hopefully, should that danger being to materialize, they can adapt accordingly before losing the lion&#039;s share of another market.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This really should not be a surprise, much less controversial.  Apple has <em>never</em> given developers as much support as they want.  Windows did not trounce MacOS because it was superior, but (in part) because Microsoft bent over backwards for &#8220;developers, developers, developers.&#8221;  Microsoft made a deliberate choice to court developers of every size and shape, which resulted in Windows having a far larger and richer application base, at the cost of consistency and occasionally stability.</p>

<p>Apple, just as deliberately, made the opposite choice &#8212; almost a &#8220;my way or the highway&#8221; message to developers, as well as far less hand-holding.   This allowed for more clearly focused platform design, and arguably, a higher average application quality.  But the Mac market shrunk due to this disadvantage and, especially as industry-specific one-off applications became more and more significant, the business market voted for Windows, dragging most of the rest of us along with it.</p>

<p>Will this be a concern for the iPhone long-term?  It is not as clear that the smartphone market shares many of the same driving forces as the PC market.  As long as the smartphone remains a simple, broad-based device, absolutely not &#8212; that covets Apple&#8217;s strengths, and does not strongly value Microsoft&#8217;s approach.  If (or when) smartphones start to take on more and more single-purpose functionality requiring low-level customization, Apple&#8217;s SDK restrictions, and their history of less-than-stellar developer support, could very well put them at a disadvantage compared to Android, Palm, or even WinCE.  Of course, even for that to matter, some person (or, more likely, corporate shop) would have to develop a fantastically useful application that is either not possible with the iphone SDK or not possible without the levels of support Apple historically has not provided.</p>

<p>Apple has a strong headstart with a great platform, though, and an object lesson in their own history.  Hopefully, should that danger being to materialize, they can adapt accordingly before losing the lion&#8217;s share of another market.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeffdc5</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/01/30/iphone-sdk-hostile-compared-palm-pres-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-29905</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffdc5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 16:23:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Everybody is going gaga over the palm widget phone, it has yet to be released for all we know it could end up flopping like the other iclones&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everybody is going gaga over the palm widget phone, it has yet to be released for all we know it could end up flopping like the other iclones</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/01/30/iphone-sdk-hostile-compared-palm-pres-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-29873</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 05:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apple will do just fine. It&#039;s not like the pre will make apple stop iphone development.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple will do just fine. It&#8217;s not like the pre will make apple stop iphone development.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Frog</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/01/30/iphone-sdk-hostile-compared-palm-pres-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-29867</link>
		<dc:creator>Frog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 04:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;The iPhone development community seems very strong, and plenty of money is being made for the best developers.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The iPhone development community seems very strong, and plenty of money is being made for the best developers.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeffdc5</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/01/30/iphone-sdk-hostile-compared-palm-pres-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-29863</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffdc5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 02:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;You come on an iPhone site complaining about fanbois? What makes you think the pre will sell? The phone could be better but if people don&#039;t want a widget phone it will fall on it&#039;s face&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You come on an iPhone site complaining about fanbois? What makes you think the pre will sell? The phone could be better but if people don&#8217;t want a widget phone it will fall on it&#8217;s face</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/01/30/iphone-sdk-hostile-compared-palm-pres-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-29861</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Jan 2009 01:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Grow up people and get a life....&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Grow up people and get a life&#8230;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/01/30/iphone-sdk-hostile-compared-palm-pres-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-29844</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 21:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Evil Kerek:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;ve been a fanboy over twenty years and I&#039;m still standing. Proof that your dreams ain&#039;t gonna happen. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! :lol:&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Evil Kerek:</p>

<p>I&#8217;ve been a fanboy over twenty years and I&#8217;m still standing. Proof that your dreams ain&#8217;t gonna happen. BWAHAHAHAHA!!!! <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Rusty Lindquist</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/01/30/iphone-sdk-hostile-compared-palm-pres-mojo/comment-page-1/#comment-29837</link>
		<dc:creator>Rusty Lindquist</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Fanbois may be worthless in your eyes, but when you say &quot;fanboy&quot; I hear &quot;demand&quot;, and where you see demand, there too will be supply.  In other words, Apple has built up hype and momentum (the two playing off each other), and as such it matters little how &quot;open&quot; or &quot;friendly&quot; these companies are to developers, the developers will go where the consumers go, which right now, is with apple.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fanbois may be worthless in your eyes, but when you say &#8220;fanboy&#8221; I hear &#8220;demand&#8221;, and where you see demand, there too will be supply.  In other words, Apple has built up hype and momentum (the two playing off each other), and as such it matters little how &#8220;open&#8221; or &#8220;friendly&#8221; these companies are to developers, the developers will go where the consumers go, which right now, is with apple.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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