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	<title>Comments on: Confirmed-ish: Palm Pre Still Syncs with iTunes 8.2!</title>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/02/confirmed-palm-pre-syncs-itunes-82/comment-page-1/#comment-48909</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:56:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Wish you could correct posts, my dyslexia got the best of me. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;VERABTIM = VERBATIM.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wish you could correct posts, my dyslexia got the best of me. </p>

<p>VERABTIM = VERBATIM.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/02/confirmed-palm-pre-syncs-itunes-82/comment-page-1/#comment-48908</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Daniel&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the words you are looking for are Stubborn, Oblivious Elitists. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Basically they think they know everything and lie to themselves until they believe the garbage Apple tells them to. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;@Matt I am pretty sure what I just typed above is VERABTIM 1984 Doublethink. Go look it up idiot.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel</p>

<p>I think the words you are looking for are Stubborn, Oblivious Elitists. </p>

<p>Basically they think they know everything and lie to themselves until they believe the garbage Apple tells them to. </p>

<p>@Matt I am pretty sure what I just typed above is VERABTIM 1984 Doublethink. Go look it up idiot.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Shaun</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/02/confirmed-palm-pre-syncs-itunes-82/comment-page-1/#comment-48907</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 05:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Matt&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Matt, are you confused? Go pick up a copy of 1984 and try to make your feable mind understand the parallels painted in my post. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you still aren&#039;t satisfied, then go pick up a copy of a Brave New World and see if you can get it then.  Otherwise I am sorry to say you are lost and you can keep taking your SOMA until you die in your obliviousness.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Matt</p>

<p>Matt, are you confused? Go pick up a copy of 1984 and try to make your feable mind understand the parallels painted in my post. </p>

<p>If you still aren&#8217;t satisfied, then go pick up a copy of a Brave New World and see if you can get it then.  Otherwise I am sorry to say you are lost and you can keep taking your SOMA until you die in your obliviousness.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 20:50:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ Shaun&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I concur!  Why are Apple users such supremacists? Or is separatists the right label?  &quot;Only Apple products should be able to sync with iTunes!&quot;  That kind of thinking is why Macs are so far behind PCs!&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Shaun</p>

<p>I concur!  Why are Apple users such supremacists? Or is separatists the right label?  &#8220;Only Apple products should be able to sync with iTunes!&#8221;  That kind of thinking is why Macs are so far behind PCs!</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Matt</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/02/confirmed-palm-pre-syncs-itunes-82/comment-page-1/#comment-48763</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@ Shaun&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I don&#039;t think you have read 1984 and if you have I am certain you didn&#039;t understand it.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Shaun</p>

<p>I don&#8217;t think you have read 1984 and if you have I am certain you didn&#8217;t understand it.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: icebike</title>
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		<dc:creator>icebike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Rocky:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;The Pre simply supports the iPhone OS, and many others may follow by licencing from Pre or iPhone.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;That is overstating the case.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Does my USB Logitech mouse &quot;Support Windows Vista&quot; just because it works with Vista, and 15flavors of Linux and FreeBSD and MAC OS X?  Thats a lot of support for a little mouse.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Pre just pretends to be a iPod.  That&#039;s far far cry from &quot;supporting the iPhone OS&quot;.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rocky:</p>

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  <p>The Pre simply supports the iPhone OS, and many others may follow by licencing from Pre or iPhone.</p>
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<p>That is overstating the case.</p>

<p>Does my USB Logitech mouse &#8220;Support Windows Vista&#8221; just because it works with Vista, and 15flavors of Linux and FreeBSD and MAC OS X?  Thats a lot of support for a little mouse.</p>

<p>The Pre just pretends to be a iPod.  That&#8217;s far far cry from &#8220;supporting the iPhone OS&#8221;.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: fassy</title>
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		<dc:creator>fassy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 15:55:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@The Reptile&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Unlike trademarks, there is no need to file patent claim immediately.  Companies often wait until they have maximum leverage to file (see NTP vs RIM), or hold it in reserve so they can use it to force some cross-licensing of their own products.  Suing earlier instead of taking investor cash would have wasted that bullet, leaving Palm with a possibility of settlement money and only the dead end Treo/Centro line while they spent scarce money on lawsuits instead of R&amp;D.  It seems a reasonable gamble for Palm instead to take sure investor cash to fund something new, and to hold any patents in reserve to aid launching a product they hope will save the company.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@The Reptile</p>

<p>Unlike trademarks, there is no need to file patent claim immediately.  Companies often wait until they have maximum leverage to file (see NTP vs RIM), or hold it in reserve so they can use it to force some cross-licensing of their own products.  Suing earlier instead of taking investor cash would have wasted that bullet, leaving Palm with a possibility of settlement money and only the dead end Treo/Centro line while they spent scarce money on lawsuits instead of R&amp;D.  It seems a reasonable gamble for Palm instead to take sure investor cash to fund something new, and to hold any patents in reserve to aid launching a product they hope will save the company.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Tis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:31:14 +0000</pubDate>
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&lt;li&gt;The value of a patent is worth squat until it is litigated.  So palm holds patents worth about 2000 dollars (the value of a patent grows each time it is litigated), and both of these companies are sitting on serious cash cows in a time where cash is tight.  You can bet they won&#039;t sue each other.  Some social justice judge will make a filling that this is petty inbred fighting and both compnies will loose.  Think about this apple looses this fight and microsoft swoops in and tries to buy apple&#039;s ip rights.&lt;/li&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<ol>
<li>The value of a patent is worth squat until it is litigated.  So palm holds patents worth about 2000 dollars (the value of a patent grows each time it is litigated), and both of these companies are sitting on serious cash cows in a time where cash is tight.  You can bet they won&#8217;t sue each other.  Some social justice judge will make a filling that this is petty inbred fighting and both compnies will loose.  Think about this apple looses this fight and microsoft swoops in and tries to buy apple&#8217;s ip rights.</li>
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		<title>By: Terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apple needs to think about this for a minute.  A lot of people like iTunes, if other devices can connect and sync then maybe more people will buy from iTunes?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple needs to think about this for a minute.  A lot of people like iTunes, if other devices can connect and sync then maybe more people will buy from iTunes?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: The Reptile</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Reptile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 11:48:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Let me get this straight - Palm, a company that was so broke that it had to take $650 Million from Elevation Partners in order to save the company simply let Apple infringe on it&#039;s Intellectual Property for over 2 years and millions of violations and did nothing?  And they did this so that they could build a product that infringes on Apple&#039;s patents and keep Apple from filing suit on Palm.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Sounds a little far fetched to me.  Even if you take out the second thought it&#039;s still far fetched that Palm would not sue Apple even after the Elevation investment.  Only the US Fed prints more money than Apple.  If the case would have been that much of a slam dunk Palm would have done it already not play cat and mouse with Apple.  Apple has far more resources and could sustain a prolonged legal battle than Palm can.  Palm has existential problems even if the Pre is a hit, Apple doesn&#039;t.  So these patent hypothesis are not all that credible when you consider all of the facts.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight &#8211; Palm, a company that was so broke that it had to take $650 Million from Elevation Partners in order to save the company simply let Apple infringe on it&#8217;s Intellectual Property for over 2 years and millions of violations and did nothing?  And they did this so that they could build a product that infringes on Apple&#8217;s patents and keep Apple from filing suit on Palm.</p>

<p>Sounds a little far fetched to me.  Even if you take out the second thought it&#8217;s still far fetched that Palm would not sue Apple even after the Elevation investment.  Only the US Fed prints more money than Apple.  If the case would have been that much of a slam dunk Palm would have done it already not play cat and mouse with Apple.  Apple has far more resources and could sustain a prolonged legal battle than Palm can.  Palm has existential problems even if the Pre is a hit, Apple doesn&#8217;t.  So these patent hypothesis are not all that credible when you consider all of the facts.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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