Interestingly enough, Palm also has a history of creating very solid products that push the envelope on the mobile industry as well as slipping up.

Both companies are poised to continue to do well, but what it looks like what Palm learned with the Pre is that you constantly have to want to bring something new. Apps are great, but why did it take Apple so long upgrade their hardware. I’m guessing that their new hardware maybe begins to compete with what the Pre has under the hood – and the fact that Palm decided to go with Texas Instruments’ OMAP3 platform speaks volumes.

I know Apple is all about software leading hardware, and their App Store will carry them far, but their hardware had limited what those apps could do for so long. Moreover, Pre’s OS is, simply put, really tight. Their UI is unbelievably smooth and opens a door that Apple chose to ignore.

As the smartphone industry progresses, it won’t be about who creates a great product – it will be about who continues to reinvent their product to push the concept of what a smartphone can do. As of late, it looks like the iphone is falling into the same rut as all Apple products between the late eighties and ‘97 when Jobs came back.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/05/technology/companies/05apple.html?_r=2&ref=technology

As the thread wanders further and further afield…

It will not be tha cash cow for years, but if on leg for success with for example iPhones is business – Apple will take a deep look into making Mac OS X Server a trusted, simple but powerful and cost effective corporate messaging platform.

I don’t see this happening for many many years.

Before Apple can make any significant inroad into the Corporate Server Market several things have to happen:

1) First Microsoft has to FAIL in a huge and massive way. Win7 will be a good release, and the server versions to follow will also be very good.

2) Apple Servers would have to be cheaper and easier to manage in large installations than Windows server. Not likely to happen. On the scale we are talking about here windows is LIGHT YEARS ahead. You can sit in your Chicago office and push all sorts of changes to every field office in the country with one mouse click in Windows enterprise servers. Apple has nothing to compare.

3) Linux has to go retrograde and get harder to install and manage. Currently the large Server versions of Linux, (RedHat, Novel-Suse, Ubuntu server) install EASIER than windows server, and they are pushing into corporate server farms at astounding rates.

No, Apple server will probably ONLY find traction in those installations that are already Apple Centric, such as graphic design studio shops (etc) and Mac development shops, and such.

Mac in the large corporate work place is STILL an oddity. Dramatically out numbered, usually sitting on the desk of the recent graduates that did nothing but Mac all their life. You have to wait till these folks are a majority.

No – I’m not out of my mind. Indeed Apple so far has their success in areas close to consumers. However, looking into what they talk about since at least last years WWDC and since Leopard Server (with work groups, bolgs, wikis and so on) they are eagar to move on business. And the oportunity is there.

1) Windows Server is expensive and not very easy to manage. With or withour viruses. But it’s common and thus Apple does license nessesary parts to be compatible. But look into Leopard and upcoming session on WWDC and the traces for a complete messaging platform based on Mac OS X Server is there! They have tried and developed the technology with their MobileMe-offers!

2) In these gadget blogs we often forget to look into Blackberys total offer, which includes secure messaging based on a BB-developed and sold back end solution. That’s also important for their success so far!

3) Messaging within a business is important and over the years several solutions to enable this simple, stable and secure has been offered. And companies ar prepared to invest in such solutions seperate from other server and workstation platforms. Because Exchange (the BIG fellow here) is not cost effective and percieved as unsecure. They just need to be resonbale compatible.

It will not be tha cash cow for years, but if on leg for success with for example iPhones is business – Apple will take a deep look into making Mac OS X Server a trusted, simple but powerful and cost effective corporate messaging platform.

Can be a big thing!!!

Have you really lost your mind?? LOL Have you looked at market shares lately. Windows is still crushing, I’m sorry. Simply for the fact Windows (like Apple and MP3 players) have THE name in computing. Apple with computing is niche market at best. And believe it or not, it’s far easier to exploit Mac OS X than it is Windows (it’s been shown to be hacked within 2mins). So Apple taking over the PC…no. Most likely not in OUR lifetime.

But luckily that is definitely not to be said for MP3 sector and now the phone. But as it’s been said all day, Apple can still be beat if they dont pick it up.

I agree apple caved would rather say changed but, I’m not suggesting we revisit the past. But that was their business plan, and I agreed with it. That was my opinion to which I am entitled to have. Thats all I will say on that matter.

But it’s true what it stated by many above. The iPhone needs to step up now. We all now it, and I hope they know it.

The way I measure the strenght of other competitors agAins the iPhone is when I think about actually trying out a new phone. I love my iPhone, but for example BB messenger service has made me look at BB handsets a lot. The pre sounds good with multitasking and synergy.

The other phones have things that allure costumers, the only way for apple to really ‘beat them’ is by taking those things and put them on the iPhone. I still don’t understand why the iPhone does not have a iPhone messanger app! Like BBM. Maybe iChat and push fill that hole. I certainly hope that this week iPhone had something amazong up theor sleeve!