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	<title>Comments on: Where Was Windows Mobile at WWDC 2009?</title>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/10/windows-mobile-wwdc-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-51196</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 20:35:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@melwan&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Windows is vastly different from Vista with tons more features. It also has a extremely small memory footprint and requirements. If I wanted to I could run 7 on a 2000 AMD athlon 1.2 ghz with 128 MB ram with no hiccups. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Snow Leopard is little more than a service pack.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@melwan</p>

<p>Windows is vastly different from Vista with tons more features. It also has a extremely small memory footprint and requirements. If I wanted to I could run 7 on a 2000 AMD athlon 1.2 ghz with 128 MB ram with no hiccups. </p>

<p>Snow Leopard is little more than a service pack.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jason D</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/10/windows-mobile-wwdc-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-51107</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 15:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Jeff an gquaglia&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I agree.  This slide shows a pretty slanted view.  The number of available apps are only counted if they are packaged into a Store?  That&#039;s a highly selective way of looking at things.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple, I was downloading apps from Handango and Palmgear wirelessly directly to my Treo 600, 650 and 700 long before you even HAD a phone available!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Other than jailbreaking my 3g, how ELSE do you expect me to do this on my Apple?&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Signed,
Jason- The Most Attractive Man ALIVE (In Kankakee County, wearing a blue shirt between the ages of 37 and 38 who owns a 3G)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Jeff an gquaglia</p>

<p>I agree.  This slide shows a pretty slanted view.  The number of available apps are only counted if they are packaged into a Store?  That&#8217;s a highly selective way of looking at things.</p>

<p>Apple, I was downloading apps from Handango and Palmgear wirelessly directly to my Treo 600, 650 and 700 long before you even HAD a phone available!</p>

<p>Other than jailbreaking my 3g, how ELSE do you expect me to do this on my Apple?</p>

<p>Signed,
Jason- The Most Attractive Man ALIVE (In Kankakee County, wearing a blue shirt between the ages of 37 and 38 who owns a 3G)</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JOFOTO</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/10/windows-mobile-wwdc-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-51037</link>
		<dc:creator>JOFOTO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 04:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;palm os has well over 30,000 apps. if apple didnt count duplicates its down to about 25000 real apps.jus be fair when stating facts&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>palm os has well over 30,000 apps. if apple didnt count duplicates its down to about 25000 real apps.jus be fair when stating facts</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: melwan</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/10/windows-mobile-wwdc-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-51007</link>
		<dc:creator>melwan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 02:40:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Carl&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;a) PC = Windows in the eyes of the average user. and that is why Apple is differentiating between a PC and a Mac.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;b) True, Win7 is not much different than Vista and Snow Leopard is not much different, in UI at least, than Leopard. BUT, Apple&#039;s argument was not only focusing on the fact that Win7 and Vista are similar. It was focusing on the fact that they are similar while while Win7 is built on the same bad foundation as Vista (regs, dlls, etc...). On the other hand, Snow Leopard and Leopard are similar but SL is built on Leopard&#039;s foundation which is much stronger and better than Vista&#039;s foundation.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I&#039;m not justifying Apple&#039;s arguments; just trying to analyze and understand the content of the argument.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Carl</p>

<p>a) PC = Windows in the eyes of the average user. and that is why Apple is differentiating between a PC and a Mac.</p>

<p>b) True, Win7 is not much different than Vista and Snow Leopard is not much different, in UI at least, than Leopard. BUT, Apple&#8217;s argument was not only focusing on the fact that Win7 and Vista are similar. It was focusing on the fact that they are similar while while Win7 is built on the same bad foundation as Vista (regs, dlls, etc&#8230;). On the other hand, Snow Leopard and Leopard are similar but SL is built on Leopard&#8217;s foundation which is much stronger and better than Vista&#8217;s foundation.</p>

<p>I&#8217;m not justifying Apple&#8217;s arguments; just trying to analyze and understand the content of the argument.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/10/windows-mobile-wwdc-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-50976</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:45:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;They didn’t mention it because, like win mobile,
  they are irrelevant. The also didn’t mention apps
  for the Newton or my old Commodore 64. They
  happened too.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Well, if we get to include things that are not and were never cell phones, I&#039;m also totally incensed that they didn&#039;t include a bar for applications on my toaster oven.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The Treo line of phones however, which are likely still used by far more people than the Pre, can run most if not all of those applications.  Just like Windows Mobile, it&#039;s a mobile phone platform with lots of applications that people still use.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My original point, and the point of this whole discussion, is that Apple just decided to leave stuff out that didn&#039;t make them look extra awesome.  Had they included the two other major smartphone platforms with downloadable and installable applications, their graph would have looked far less impressive.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <p>They didn’t mention it because, like win mobile,
  they are irrelevant. The also didn’t mention apps
  for the Newton or my old Commodore 64. They
  happened too.</p>
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<p>Well, if we get to include things that are not and were never cell phones, I&#8217;m also totally incensed that they didn&#8217;t include a bar for applications on my toaster oven.</p>

<p>The Treo line of phones however, which are likely still used by far more people than the Pre, can run most if not all of those applications.  Just like Windows Mobile, it&#8217;s a mobile phone platform with lots of applications that people still use.</p>

<p>My original point, and the point of this whole discussion, is that Apple just decided to leave stuff out that didn&#8217;t make them look extra awesome.  Had they included the two other major smartphone platforms with downloadable and installable applications, their graph would have looked far less impressive.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Carl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Apple needs to get off the high horse of making fun of Microsoft and Windows Vista/7. There are several reasons why making fun of Windows is bad:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;a) In the commercial Apple commercials... they say &quot;Hi, I&#039;m a Mac and I&#039;m a PC.&quot;. We all know that Mac is a PC as well, PC = Personal Computer and not Windows or Mac or Linux.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;b) Apple tried making Snow Leopard to be some great OS (going to get it because $29 is really cheap), and how Windows 7 is bad because there isn&#039;t tons different then Windows Vista. Isn&#039;t Snow Leopard only a bit different in terms of architecture and the way they do things under the hood? That&#039;s pretty much the same as Windows 7!&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;All in all, you Mac fan boys need to grow up and stop hating on Microsoft just because it&#039;s the cool thing to do. I used to hate on Apple as a Windows user, but I am using Apple, Windows and Linux and I love them all for different reasons.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Apple is just using Windows 7 as a distraction for not a ton of new things being released.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;/rant&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apple needs to get off the high horse of making fun of Microsoft and Windows Vista/7. There are several reasons why making fun of Windows is bad:</p>

<p>a) In the commercial Apple commercials&#8230; they say &#8220;Hi, I&#8217;m a Mac and I&#8217;m a PC.&#8221;. We all know that Mac is a PC as well, PC = Personal Computer and not Windows or Mac or Linux.</p>

<p>b) Apple tried making Snow Leopard to be some great OS (going to get it because $29 is really cheap), and how Windows 7 is bad because there isn&#8217;t tons different then Windows Vista. Isn&#8217;t Snow Leopard only a bit different in terms of architecture and the way they do things under the hood? That&#8217;s pretty much the same as Windows 7!</p>

<p>All in all, you Mac fan boys need to grow up and stop hating on Microsoft just because it&#8217;s the cool thing to do. I used to hate on Apple as a Windows user, but I am using Apple, Windows and Linux and I love them all for different reasons.</p>

<p>Apple is just using Windows 7 as a distraction for not a ton of new things being released.</p>

<p>/rant</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Truth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Truth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Lies&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I use an Iphone 3g. And I don&#039;t consider it a smartphone. It is a spectacular feature phone but it is not a smartphone by any means.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Lies</p>

<p>I use an Iphone 3g. And I don&#8217;t consider it a smartphone. It is a spectacular feature phone but it is not a smartphone by any means.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Lies</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/10/windows-mobile-wwdc-2009/comment-page-1/#comment-50967</link>
		<dc:creator>Lies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 22:00:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Truth: just wondering, what are u using right now (smartphone wise)?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Truth: just wondering, what are u using right now (smartphone wise)?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: sting7k</title>
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		<dc:creator>sting7k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;In reality the App Store is pretty much on par with Android.  There aren&#039;t really 50,000 apps in the store...there are at least 45,000 crApps made by children looking to make a quick buck.  Or about 40 of the same news/rss reader but each gives one source.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reality the App Store is pretty much on par with Android.  There aren&#8217;t really 50,000 apps in the store&#8230;there are at least 45,000 crApps made by children looking to make a quick buck.  Or about 40 of the same news/rss reader but each gives one source.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: gquaglia</title>
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		<dc:creator>gquaglia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 21:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;They also showed the Palm column as, I’m guessing, exclusively webOS? The conveniently left out the old palm platform. Yeah, it’s old, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;They didn&#039;t mention it because, like win mobile, they are irrelevant.  The also didn&#039;t mention apps for the Newton or my old Commodore 64.  They happened too.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote>They also showed the Palm column as, I’m guessing, exclusively webOS? The conveniently left out the old palm platform. Yeah, it’s old, but that doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.</blockquote>

<p>They didn&#8217;t mention it because, like win mobile, they are irrelevant.  The also didn&#8217;t mention apps for the Newton or my old Commodore 64.  They happened too.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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