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	<title>Comments on: TiPb iPhone 3G S vs. iPhone 3G Browser Speed Smackdown</title>
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		<title>By: Glenn_CO</title>
		<link>http://www.theiphoneblog.com/2009/06/19/tipb-iphone-3g-iphone-3g-browser-speed-smackdown/comment-page-1/#comment-57158</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn_CO</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 00:06:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Michael Denney: Must be nice. I&#039;m sure you probably added a line to your business account. Find it hard to believe that you managed $199 for only have the 3G for 7 months. Had mine for 10 months.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Michael Denney: Must be nice. I&#8217;m sure you probably added a line to your business account. Find it hard to believe that you managed $199 for only have the 3G for 7 months. Had mine for 10 months.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Roger Kent</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roger Kent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 08:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;IPhone 4.0 coming soon….&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;1)Flash player support
2)Quick back option without going to home screen while switching between apps.
3)File browsing and storing
4)Option to attach images, file etc from email app itself.
5)Multiple signature options
6)Manual rotate gesture option
7)Notes app should be more powerful word process (fonts, text size etc)
8)All Grouping of contacts for test message e.g. friend and family groups.
9)App for grouping key social networking sites(for posting universal photos, text to all social networking sites together.
10) Auto spell check in safari browser (like mozilla) when adding text in twitter, facebook leaving comments at blog etc.
11)Build in Flash in camera for night photo shot
12) Front facing camera for video Chat
13) Use cover flow for using multitasking third party apps (limit to 5 apps, not to drain the battery life)
14)Thin quick time player app to run video downloaded from web.
15)Group notification alert or not attended tasks(missed MMS, SMS, PHONE, Chat message, meeting, event etc)on single screen.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Roger Kent&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IPhone 4.0 coming soon….</p>

<p>1)Flash player support
2)Quick back option without going to home screen while switching between apps.
3)File browsing and storing
4)Option to attach images, file etc from email app itself.
5)Multiple signature options
6)Manual rotate gesture option
7)Notes app should be more powerful word process (fonts, text size etc)
8)All Grouping of contacts for test message e.g. friend and family groups.
9)App for grouping key social networking sites(for posting universal photos, text to all social networking sites together.
10) Auto spell check in safari browser (like mozilla) when adding text in twitter, facebook leaving comments at blog etc.
11)Build in Flash in camera for night photo shot
12) Front facing camera for video Chat
13) Use cover flow for using multitasking third party apps (limit to 5 apps, not to drain the battery life)
14)Thin quick time player app to run video downloaded from web.
15)Group notification alert or not attended tasks(missed MMS, SMS, PHONE, Chat message, meeting, event etc)on single screen.</p>

<p>Roger Kent</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: lungho</title>
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		<dc:creator>lungho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 02:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@mordenxp&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;If you listen to the context in which he uses technical terms, you can tell he doesn&#039;t completely understand how hardware or even how the settings work.  Although, this time, none of the goofs he made makes a huge difference in rendering times, his testing methods aren&#039;t very scientific.  &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I think the 3Gs is a great product for Apple and better than the 3G, but this &quot;test&quot; isn&#039;t a good example of that.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@mordenxp</p>

<p>If you listen to the context in which he uses technical terms, you can tell he doesn&#8217;t completely understand how hardware or even how the settings work.  Although, this time, none of the goofs he made makes a huge difference in rendering times, his testing methods aren&#8217;t very scientific.  </p>

<p>I think the 3Gs is a great product for Apple and better than the 3G, but this &#8220;test&#8221; isn&#8217;t a good example of that.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mordenxp</title>
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		<dc:creator>mordenxp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;why do people think that clearing the history makes your web browser run faster?  i&#039;ve never really understood that... there is no need to clear history for this test.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do people think that clearing the history makes your web browser run faster?  i&#8217;ve never really understood that&#8230; there is no need to clear history for this test.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: icebike</title>
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		<dc:creator>icebike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:12:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;Whoever says it’s not worth going from 3G to 3GS then definitely he/she doesn’t value speed or performance.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We all value speed and performance.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;We don&#039;t all value that to the tune of 400-600 bucks.&lt;/p&gt;
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  <p>Whoever says it’s not worth going from 3G to 3GS then definitely he/she doesn’t value speed or performance.</p>
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<p>We all value speed and performance.</p>

<p>We don&#8217;t all value that to the tune of 400-600 bucks.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: mrhunk</title>
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		<dc:creator>mrhunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 00:31:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;Got my iphone 3GS today . And I’m so glad with difference in speed and performance. Whoever says it’s not worth going from 3G to 3GS then definitely he/she doesn&#039;t value speed or performance. If you still insist that it’s not worth then please try a game for example &quot;Tap Tap Revenge&quot; with a stereo Bluetooth and compare both, you ll notice a big time lag in 3G and 3GS plays smooth and no lags. Can’t wait for a jailbreak if possible so i can enjoy multitasking :)&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Got my iphone 3GS today . And I’m so glad with difference in speed and performance. Whoever says it’s not worth going from 3G to 3GS then definitely he/she doesn&#8217;t value speed or performance. If you still insist that it’s not worth then please try a game for example &#8220;Tap Tap Revenge&#8221; with a stereo Bluetooth and compare both, you ll notice a big time lag in 3G and 3GS plays smooth and no lags. Can’t wait for a jailbreak if possible so i can enjoy multitasking <img src='http://www.theiphoneblog.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: icebike</title>
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		<dc:creator>icebike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 23:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@lungho:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
  &lt;p&gt;“…and has better pipes….”???? WTF does that mean?&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

&lt;p&gt;You can find out what he means here:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_family&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The 3Gs uses the ARM Cortex-A8 processor with a 13-stage superscalar pipeline. 
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM_Cortex-A8.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The older 3G use the ARM1176JZF processor which has a 8-stage integer pipeline. 
http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM1176.html&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;The thru-put of the processors differs dramatically due to the way instructions are pre-fetched, executed, and intermediate results dealt with. &lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Basics:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_pipeline&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;So, long story short, I suggest Rene may know a thing or two more than you do about the hardware in iPhones.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@lungho:</p>

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  <p>“…and has better pipes….”???? WTF does that mean?</p>
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<p>You can find out what he means here:</p>

<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_family" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ARM_family</a></p>

<p>The 3Gs uses the ARM Cortex-A8 processor with a 13-stage superscalar pipeline. 
<a href="http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM_Cortex-A8.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM_Cortex-A8.html</a></p>

<p>The older 3G use the ARM1176JZF processor which has a 8-stage integer pipeline. 
<a href="http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM1176.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.arm.com/products/CPUs/ARM1176.html</a></p>

<p>The thru-put of the processors differs dramatically due to the way instructions are pre-fetched, executed, and intermediate results dealt with. </p>

<p>Basics:
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_pipeline" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instruction_pipeline</a></p>

<p>So, long story short, I suggest Rene may know a thing or two more than you do about the hardware in iPhones.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: JesusBonJovi</title>
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		<dc:creator>JesusBonJovi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;If you turn off Javascript on an ordinary iPhone or iPod Touch the pages load much faster than with Javascript On as shown in the video. I ran the﻿ same tests while watching the video on my iPod 2G WITHOUT the 3.0 update with Javascript disabled and my load times were fairly close to the load times of the 3G S. Most sites work well without Javascript. Ironically it is sites that are made specifically for Mobile Safari (iPhone optimized sites) that end up breaking when Javascript is turned off.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I just wish there was an easier/faster way to turn off Javascript without having to exit Safari. A Toggle﻿ to turn off Javascript for Jailbroken devices running SBSettings would be great but as far as i know one does not yet exist.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you turn off Javascript on an ordinary iPhone or iPod Touch the pages load much faster than with Javascript On as shown in the video. I ran the﻿ same tests while watching the video on my iPod 2G WITHOUT the 3.0 update with Javascript disabled and my load times were fairly close to the load times of the 3G S. Most sites work well without Javascript. Ironically it is sites that are made specifically for Mobile Safari (iPhone optimized sites) that end up breaking when Javascript is turned off.</p>

<p>I just wish there was an easier/faster way to turn off Javascript without having to exit Safari. A Toggle﻿ to turn off Javascript for Jailbroken devices running SBSettings would be great but as far as i know one does not yet exist.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: icebike</title>
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		<dc:creator>icebike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;@Rene: 
Howbout installing your favorite Speedtest App, and see if any of that apparent speed is due to better network stack/chips or if its ALL just the processor speed?&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rene: 
Howbout installing your favorite Speedtest App, and see if any of that apparent speed is due to better network stack/chips or if its ALL just the processor speed?</p>]]></content:encoded>
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		<title>By: Sniffs</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sniffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:22:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;p&gt;I didn&#039;t listen to the audio, but the whole test is flawed if you used both devices on the same internet.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;you load up one site and of course the other device will have BW issues. Same as if I&#039;m downloading a file on one laptop and attempting to load a webpage on another, there will be no BW left. The only way to TRUELY test it is to have both on separate internet connections that have the same BW capabilities.&lt;/p&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t listen to the audio, but the whole test is flawed if you used both devices on the same internet.</p>

<p>you load up one site and of course the other device will have BW issues. Same as if I&#8217;m downloading a file on one laptop and attempting to load a webpage on another, there will be no BW left. The only way to TRUELY test it is to have both on separate internet connections that have the same BW capabilities.</p>]]></content:encoded>
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