Verizon BlackBerry Storm 2 vs. iPhone Chart, like Cake, is a LIE!
Our good friends over at CrackBerry.com found and posted up this handy chart from Verizon, meant to serve as a point of comparison between the upcoming BlackBerry Storm 2 and competitive devices. The problem? Like cake, the CHART IS A LIE!
The sad part is that the dodgy folks at Verizon are comparing the latest BlackBerry Storm 2 against last year’s iPhone 3G. The really sad part is even if it’s fairer to compare the upcoming Storm to the outgoing iPhone, the chart is STILL A LIE. The iPhone 3G has had OTA 3G/EDGE music downloads since Macworld in January 2009. Likewise, the GPS in the iPhone 3G (and iPhone 3GS) is assisted (aGPS). Swap in an iPhone 3GS and there goes the camera megapixel advantage.
(Never mind the exclusion of important factors like 75,000+ apps, digital compass for augmented reality (Storm 2 has?), app integration with peripherals, a browser that can properly render AJAX, unicorn tears?!)
So what’s left? If the Storm 2 can’t even compete honestly on Verizon’s own chart, they’re in for some trouble. Of course telcos need to give their reps something to answer legitimate consumer questions about how their new devices compare to existing ones. However, Verizon would likely do better with a chart that won’t get the rep laughed out of a sale by any savvy Smartphone Experts reader.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
iPhone 3G has both assisted&standalone GPS !
October 14th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Verizons tactics are becoming troublesome.. They also lie in that commercial of, a map for that. Their 3G coverage is listed everywhere.. but where I live, in a highly populated area.. only AT&T and Sprint have coverage. Hopefully they realize soon, that they don’t need to do this.. they are becoming miller lite to bud light. And thats not a good role to have, especially when, as they stand now.. they are top dogs.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Verizon FAIL.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
FAWK VERIZON AND BLACKBERRY DEVICES THERE ARE BOTH PIECES OF GARBAGEEEEE!!!!!!!
October 14th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
I’m really happy this was posted by Rene. I noticed this lie earlier and was about to yell obscenities.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Who cares!! Quit acting like a bunch of babies! I bought the first Storm and it sucked balls and now I own an iPhone and love it. Why do people get so up tight about stupid stuff. Apple is just as bad when it comes to tactics. Just look at there “I’m a Mac, I’m a PC” commercials, nothing but LIES! Get over it!
October 14th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
@draino
not to be a **** but what lies are there in the get a mac ads. I’ve heard this before and I’m just curious.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
@Therealtruth,
Really? Stop drinking the kool-aid, and this is coming from a mac user.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:43 pm
@Therealtruth I think he means the distortion field around Apple is ludicrous.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
I have both a Blackberry and an iPhone and the iPhone SUCKS as a phone. I don’t know what I would do without the iPhone, but I really can’t use it as a phone since the dropped calls are so so bad.
On the other end of it, Blackberry should not even boast about having an “App World” it’s a poor excuse of an App Store, but Verizon service is what I need to keep me going at work and I can’t drop important conf. calls or any calls for that fact.
Once the iPhone comes out for Verizon all will be right in the world LOL.
I do enjoy the petty BS they say about each other though it’s a lot of fun.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
The problem with this tactic is that the normal consumer who does not do copious amounts of research will be fooled by something like this. But it is not unlike similar tactics in the automotive industries, etc… the only thing Apple/AT&T can do is bring up the inaccuracies and have blogs and web sites write about how Verizon is misleading consumers. :shrug:
October 14th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
all this talk about cake and cool aid is making me hungry. I had a garbage storm and everyone i know that has one is sorry they do. The second one is no different. They pissed so many people off by making a new storm instead of fixing the old one they abandoned it. Now everyone (like me) is running to ATT. They had to do something to keep what storm users they had left!!! They are all stupid and out to make money.
October 14th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
It’s like sprint advertising(chart) 1st instinct as iPhone killer…
October 14th, 2009 at 3:49 pm
by the way, you cant blame a company for trying to make money. ATT gets their stabs in as well.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
yeah, everyone does it… but that doesn’t mean we can’t fun pointing, laughing, and calling them on it.
And, yes, that goes equally well for Apple. No one should be immune, reality distortion field or not.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
Actually they are fixing the old storm too. Os 5.0 will be released for storm 1 and then the only differences will be hardware ones.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
I’ve always said that Verizon’s 3G will never be taxed as much as ATTs–because Verizon only has about 100 apps–more than half are useless and require additional fees to be paid to Verizon. Of course they will never advertise that–and they expect a lot of uninformed/perspective customers will take the bait and sign up. I know because I also have to Verizon cellphones in my household. I’d like to see how Verizon would handle the multitude of Edge/3G hungry apps that are on the ATT network. That could also be the reason why Verizon charges less (on some plans) for their data network. It might change down the road when they release new smartphones. Either way–I think for what Verizon currently offers–their data plan is overprices/overrated.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
*** verizon wireless…
October 14th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
@Schlitzie: “Once the iPhone comes out for Verizon all will be right in the world LOL.”
Would love to get one for my wife since she uses Verizon, but I really don’t think it will happen. Even if it does–I don’t think you’ll see a itunes store and Verizon getting along. Contrary to popular belief–Verizon would have some serious issues handling traffic on its 3G network. 3G might be available in more places–but can it handle the bandwidth requirements that come with the iphone and its 75,000+ apps? I would place a bet on that. Will Apple come out with a phone for CDMA and one for GSM or whatever international standard comes out? Don’t be naive and assume Apple’s marketing strategy is solely based on the US market only.
October 14th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
I like how the Verizon music is through a specific service and everyone else just has music support
October 14th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
@TheRealTruth, @Draino
The closest I can recall to a “Get a Mac” ad lying is the one with obese PC coming in, loaded down with trial software, and Mac saying he did not have to worry about that, because he (Macs) did not come with trial software. At the time, Apple shipped 30 day trials of MS Office on most new Macs. (To be fair, Mac might have said he was not “loaded down” with trial software, which makes it just misleading, not a lie.)
The “Get a Mac” ads instead relied on shaky innuendo, like PC getting a webcam taped to his head, when even as the commercial aired most PC laptops were shipping with integrated cameras.
With these (funny) ads, Apple strongly and publicly implied a PC shortcomings that often did not exist, by making implied comparisons using outdated facts and models — just as Verizon is doing here by comparing to a 3G with older firmware instead of the 3GS.
Neither Apple then nor Verizon now are lying — though the “via WiFi” in the chart skirts the boundary pretty damn closely — but both are placing their products in the best possible light by placing their competitors’ products in the worst possible light they can get away with without legal repercussions.
It is not lying, it is advertising. Since they two are hard to distinguish, never trust a single source of either.
October 14th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Should have used bullets like:
Multitasking Battery Life Vcast GPS etc
October 14th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
There’s a chart for that…
October 14th, 2009 at 7:53 pm
alot “expert’ compare other phone with iphone but they forgot about appstore. the iphone have good looking and the appstore and itunes make iphone stand out. maybe androi phone (most of them ugly) compete with iphone but not right now
October 14th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
I’m a blackberry fan (starting to lean towards the iPhone now that my GF has one) and I even found this chart to be ridiculous.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
@Kyle hahahhahahahh
October 14th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
@Glenn_VA
“because Verizon only has about 100 apps”
try 20,000. step ur knowledge up.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:30 pm
This essentially cements the idea that the iPhone is never coming to EVDO-sluggish Verizon, if Apple is sensitive to this PR release.
Storm2 UI is not even close to the first gen iPhone, to think that is OS ver. 5.
RIM makes phones for the phone companies, according to their specs.
Apple makes phone for people to love.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:32 pm
Wow, except for the camera, the LAST GENERATION iPhone is equal or better in every category. Seriously RIM, you have had years to get your iPhone copy in order and it’s just not working! They also neglected to mention the number of viable apps!! Most BB apps are a pile of bollocks on the Storm form factor.
October 14th, 2009 at 9:41 pm
@Draino
Kool-aid? Havent had it in yrs….
October 14th, 2009 at 10:23 pm
iphone killer???
October 15th, 2009 at 12:17 am
Funny how Verizon made sure to say the iPhone has MMS but lies about the other stuff.
October 15th, 2009 at 12:23 am
I love my iPhone. That’s it, that’s all I got tonight.
October 15th, 2009 at 7:57 am
You know, I’ve had my Storm for about 9 months, and I have a serious case of iPhone envy! I still think, however, that Blackberry is the best phone out there, in terms of real world practicality. But with this new generation of smartphone users, I think they’re having a hard time keeping up with something as versatile and **** as the iPhone. And the Storm2…well, if they strike out on this one, they might as well stick with what they do best: The greatest and most secure business phone.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:03 am
@JR THE TRUTH “try 20,000. step ur knowledge up.” Since we’re talking Iphone and Blackberry here. The below info was provided by The New York Times, SAUL HANSELL and IAN AUSTEN, October 13, 2009:
“R.I.M. has been slow to develop touch-screen technology, and its BlackBerrys are sluggish at browsing the Internet, industry analysts say. And developers have written only about 2,000 applications to run on BlackBerrys, compared with 85,000 for the iPhone and 10,000 for Android phones.”
The question is where would those apps be on Verizon’s website? I’ve been to their media website and don’t see anything close to the 20k you say VZW has. Obviously VZW doesn’t like to advertise that because it really doesn’t have that many–that are even worth looking at. That’s one reason why I haven’t upgraded my wife’s VZW phone–and that’s why I love my 3GS.
October 15th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Well 20,000 in App world, but there is also crackberry’s own App Store and various other sources (I know this might come as a shock to the iphone types) as the phone is not locked to one app source.
October 17th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
This comparison is ridiculous!!! Verizon must really be slipping to make such a twisted comparison… oh and news for vzw the iPhone/att has rhapsody services and u can use 3G/Edge or Wifi
October 22nd, 2009 at 5:02 pm
the comparison is not only fair, but accurate, sure you can OTA mp3’s, but you’re forced to do it with itunes, blackberry can save any file from any site onto the phone. sold my iphone last year and went with a blackberry, best thing i ever did, the iphone made me hate using my phone, and made me hate apple.
November 3rd, 2009 at 11:51 pm
A few thoughts, first and for most the 3g coverage with verizon SHUTS at&ts down, for those people in ” highly populated” areas that say at&t is better , than more than likely they were there first. FCC has regulation on how close towers can be wether competitor or not. Next the comment on the music capabilty, verizon supports protected and non proteced music, u can drag and drop or use rhapsody, also with the blackberry storms you have a itunes converter to play the old protected itunes on your black berry, yup theres an app for that, also with the launch of the imagio, moto droid and eris, the game is about to be changed, and for those who are looking at the 3g capabilties of verizon, do some research, verizons 4g, dont forget they won the auction and bought the old analog tv spectrum and that network has the abilty to go further distance with less power faster, Check out some info on there LTE network which has already been tested. AT&T has been milking there iphone baby for quite some time, and i will agree that verizon has not had the greatest line up in phones, and are deff not the cheapest guys intown but what you have now is a sleeping dog that has been woken up that already had great voice, great mobile broad band great global YEAH I SAID GLOBAL service with now GOOGLE DROID OS! we shall see what will come…. Just some thoughts… thank you for taking the time to read this run on thought..
November 12th, 2009 at 11:58 pm
I have an iphone and a bb storm and i love the iphone…! The bb storm SUCKS
November 13th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
I like the (I have BB storm and the I phone the BB is sucks )why would you Have both and why would you have BB storm if is it as bad as you thing …. I have Gas station and my storm is realy a business man PDA I don’t realy have time for the 850000000000000000 apps from Apple ( anyways they are both very good phones my daughter has I phone we always fight trying to approve which phone is better LOL .
November 13th, 2009 at 11:27 pm
sorry folks, I use my smart phones strictly for business, I have an i-phone, Storm and Curve. All I can say it for business the Curve kicks both in the ***. The i-phone is a disappointment. If you are just keeping up with tech and have to have the latest then the i-phone might be for you, however if you are as I say using for business and also fun you cannot beat the blackberry curve. Both of the touch screen phones are actually a disappointment but ATT’s service makes the i-phone suck more than the Storm. I would rate the Curve a 10, the Storm an 8 and the i-phone a 7 in my book.
November 18th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
I am very Technologically challenged. I am trying to get updated and into this stuff. I came to this site in hopes that I would maybe feel better one way or the other about a Storm2 VS. IPhone. I think I’m more confused than ever. Someone like myself that will use the phone strictly for talking, receiving instant emails, and maybe getting into the music end of it what would everyone recommend?